Originally posted by Galan007
Superman himself agreed that he was unable to stop Prime alone:
http://i.imgur.com/3yEQQu5.jpg
ie. Prime>Superman, overall.Aside from that, we also know that even when Prime is extremely weakened, his HV is still capable of passing right through Superman, like a hot knife through butter:
http://i.imgur.com/1tb3RQ8.jpg
ie. Prime's WEAKENED HV>>>Superman-level durability.Aside from that, we know Prime is powerful enough to shred through entire TEAMS of DC's upper-echelon heroes... Even when he's not at 100% power:
http://i.imgur.com/KzoSzH4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M0wtop7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NxnRtrA.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ihh3gnv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sIhunDo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pxZEM4z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N2NL3ET.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/MCPChFb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VNi0U8w.jpg
(Those scenes are just the tip of the iceberg, mind you.)Aside from that, we also know Prime is fast enough to counter high-level speedsters when need be:
http://i.imgur.com/j5p1hig.jpgAnd even outrace several confirmed FTL++ characters:
http://i.imgur.com/QcbiRHQ.jpg
"There's NO WAY we'll catch him", says JOHN STEWART to SUPERMAN, POWER GIRL, HAL, KAL, and J'ONN.Aside from that, we also know Prime is durable enough to tank universe-busting detonations at ground zero:
http://i.imgur.com/BXmtZ0x.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qcx8Cy3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yWygHlI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F2nSSrU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kY1X5Lr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YbhuRmn.jpgAs well as pure anti-matter energy:
http://i.imgur.com/C4v00Wz.jpgSo yeah, I see no possible way for the DBZ-verse to win in a PIS-less scenario. Tbh, I don't even know how they could contend with Prime's HV alone... Never mind his VASTLY superior strength, speed, and durability. /shrug
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Good post.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]I WILL DESTROY YOU FOR YOUR INSOLENCE!!!!! [/B]
Even with the guardian amp, Prime peaks at universe level. Meaning around n00B SSJG Goku level.
Someone like Beerus would slag him with a hundred universe busting blasts in less than a second, and he'd be literally reduced to ashes.
Prime has a variety of universe level feats. Taking blasts from the Anti-monitor, imprisoning Mr. Myx in the source wall(and torturing him), surviving the explosion of a universe, breaking the walls of reality with just his punches, totally rag-dolling Ion in an outright slug-fest(whom the Guardians were confident could defeat the Anti-monitor), etc.
In terms of durability, he's around universe level. In terms of strength, he's PC Superman level(strong enough to sneeze away solar systems, tow around galaxies on a chain, destroy planets by flying through them, etc.). His stats are all on the level of PC Superman, until he gets the guardian amp, which gives him the ability to fight truly universal beings, and survive the explosion of a universe(although it depleted his remaining Oan energy).
He's extremely impressive, and downplaying him just makes you look stupid.
Regardless, anyone n00b SSJG Goku level and above would ragdoll him in a fight.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Prime has a variety of universe level feats. Taking blasts from the Anti-monitor, imprisoning Mr. Myx in the source wall(and torturing him), surviving the explosion of a universe, breaking the walls of reality with just his punches, totally rag-dolling Ion in an outright slug-fest(whom the Guardians were confident could defeat the Anti-monitor), etc.In terms of durability, he's around universe level. In terms of strength, he's PC Superman level(strong enough to sneeze away solar systems, tow around galaxies on a chain, destroy planets by flying through them, etc.). His stats are all on the level of PC Superman, until he gets the guardian amp, which gives him the ability to fight truly universal beings, and survive the explosion of a universe(although it depleted his remaining Oan energy).
He's extremely impressive, and downplaying him just makes you look stupid.
Regardless, anyone n00b SSJG Goku level and above would ragdoll him in a fight.
The feats that you are quoting are out-of-context.
Rhetorical questions:
When the blasts from the anti-monitor have been stated to be able to one-shot an universe ? (Never)
When did Mxy do anything Universal ? (Never, WF Mxy isn't canon thus never happened)
Did SMP tank the Universal explosion ? (He didn't, the quantum explosion teleported him at the end of time)
Is breaking the wall of reality relevant ? (It isn't, the durability of the wall isn't really quantifiable but the energy that he got from Alex Luthor wasn't powerful enough to destroy a single universe and those walls are still tangible stuff)
Honestly, base form Goku is enough to shit on SMP.
The Ki-attacks undermine Kryptonian powers.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
The feats that you are quoting are out-of-context.Rhetorical questions:
When the blasts from the anti-monitor have been stated to be able to one-shot an universe ? (Never)
When did Mxy do anything Universal ? (Never, WF Mxy isn't canon thus never happened)
Did SMP tank the Universal explosion ? (He didn't, the quantum explosion teleported him at the end of time)
Is breaking the wall of reality relevant ? (It isn't, the durability of the wall isn't really quantifiable but the energy that he got from Alex Luthor wasn't powerful enough to destroy a single universe and those walls are still tangible stuff)
Honestly, base form Goku is enough to shit on SMP.
The Ki-attacks undermine Kryptonian powers.
Wrong- you're ignoring context, lmao.
1. The Anti-monitor has destroyed countless universes with his blasts. He even overpowered a ridiculously amped Spectre, causing an explosion that destroyed two universes. I have scans if you'd like them posted.
2. Myx has accomplished many universal/multiversal feats. WF is just one of the many examples, ranging from all his appearances in PC, Post-crisis, DC Rebirth, New 52, etc. He has literally erased the omniverse/brought it back with a snap of his fingers, held all of creation in his hands, toyed with beings like Trigon, etc, etc, etc.
3. Wrong. SMP tanked the explosion, and then floated in nothingness until he fell into a different dimension. He didn't get teleported, lmao. The force sent him outside the multiverse. He still took it.
4. Yes, breaking the walls of reality is relevant. That's something that even beings like Spectre weren't able to do. Also, your understanding of what happened in that series is completely erroneous.
I already said that n00b SSJG Goku > SBP, and even Guardian amp SMP. Not sure what your point is.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Wrong- you're ignoring context, lmao.1. The Anti-monitor has destroyed countless universes with his blasts. He even overpowered a ridiculously amped Spectre, causing an explosion that destroyed two universes. I have scans if you'd like them posted.
*sigh*
Anti-Monitor never unleashed a blast capable to destroy one universe against SBP...
Yeah post your scan.
2. Myx has accomplished many universal/multiversal feats. WF is just one of the many examples, ranging from all his appearances in PC, Post-crisis, DC Rebirth, New 52, etc. He has literally erased the omniverse/brought it back with a snap of his fingers, held all of creation in his hands, toyed with beings like Trigon, etc, etc, etc.
Your last sentence in this paragraph is in WF which isn't cannon... (omniverse and the creation in his hands...)
The other stuff your are quoting doesn't make him what you are assuming...
Post scans.
3. Wrong. SMP tanked the explosion, and then floated in nothingness until he fell into a different dimension. He didn't get teleported, lmao. The force sent him outside the multiverse. He still took it.
*sigh*
I've already explained the context many times.
You still don't know how Captain Atom/Monarch's powers works
4. Yes, breaking the walls of reality is relevant. That's something that even beings like Spectre weren't able to do. Also, your understanding of what happened in that series is completely erroneous.
*sigh*
This wall was a physical thing and it took SBP hours to destroy it...
That's totally irrelevant.
I already said that n00b SSJG Goku > SBP, and even Guardian amp SMP. Not sure what your point is.
At least we agree on something.
I just don't like inaccuracies.
