There is a *possible* use of sorcery there.
In one panel, he's being affected by Wyyrlok's sorcery and has empty hands. Then he says, 'This isn't your trap, it's mine,' and then in the next he's stabbing Wyyrlok.
So *either* he was making it appear he was unarmed when he wasn't, *or* he did a really, really fast quickdraw when he broke free. The latter might be a bit more likely, but the situation's ambiguous.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I like to think reborn!Krayt is a cosmic horror elevated to the highest ranks of Sithdom. Not so much that he'd stomp Vader, who is himself one of the baddest Sith Lords ever, but on par with Revan or something.Reborn!Krayt > Vader > Krayt
I think Krayt is above Revan, but not Vader, who I also see as being a tier above Revan in terms of power. Even Muur seemed far more impressed with Vader's power than Krayt's and that was when Vader was far from his prime. Of course the same can be said about Krayt, but Vader's improvement and display of power later in the DT series seemed to be far more noticeable after he discovered Murr than Reborn Krayt's power boost after being reborn. When Krayt faced Murr, he was already a practitioner of dark transfer, and was slowly curing the effects of the vong growths and his powers didn't exhaust him as earlier in the series. After his rebirth, he was merely stalemating Wyyrlok in their force duel, so I think he was exaggerating his boost in power, whereas Vader was clearly depicted as being far more powerful later on down the DT series.
Originally posted by Trocity
Okay, my mistake. I assumed Krayt used an illusion to make Wyyrlok think his sorcery was working on him.
He may have used a counter illusion on an unprepared Wyyrlok while Wyylok was just standing there gloating over his "victory," but, IIRC, Krayt was having detailed visions of his past, which to me, suggests that Wyyrlok's sorcery briefly penetrated Krayt's mind. However, Krayt was prepared for such an attack and overpowered it.
Is there anything conclusive for what you are suggesting? I have no problem accepting that as being the case, but that's not how I viewed it, as Wyyrlok clearly reached out to utilize the attack which dropped Krayt to his knees, and I don't see any reason for Krayt to purposely make such a foolish move in the middle of combat, especially since Wyyrlok was putting up a good fight just prior.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Of course Muur was more impressed with the Chosen One's power than Krayts. Doesn't mean he's actually better though. If we're going by those kinds of evaluations what do you think of Jacen browning his undies over Krayt and Luke thinking he could represent the darkside on the Throne of Balance?
If you're implying that Muur is more impressed with potential, then it seems like he would've been more interested in Cade than Krayt, which he wasn't, so I'm assuming Muur chooses his hosts based on realized power.
1) Visions are vague, and Krayt was a great threat to the galaxy with his large army of sith and his eventual take over of the empire.
2) Bad writing and Krayt was the most powerful dark sider at the time I believe. Regardless, that has nothing on Anakin's place in the force, and is kind of irrelevant.
Vader, his TK shows that in raw force power he's above Krayt. In Lightsaber dueling he's also better and Lightsaber prowess is also connected via your force reserves, meaning Vader can probably break through krayt's defenses. Although I do think krayt can potentially kill Vader cause of that hax ability of his, but Vader beats him in all stats.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Is there anything conclusive for what you are suggesting? I have no problem accepting that as being the case, but that's not how I viewed it, as Wyyrlok clearly reached out to utilize the attack which dropped Krayt to his knees, and I don't see any reason for Krayt to purposely make such a foolish move in the middle of combat, especially since Wyyrlok was putting up a good fight just prior.
Nah, that makes sense. I just interpreted it as an illusion back when I read it I guess.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
When did Shaak Ti wound him via Tk?
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Originally posted by DARTH POWERWhat? LOL So it took an hour for the Star Destroyer to fall?
In the game and novel, yeah. In the novel he thinks and talks about stardestroyer and how is he going to manipulate and that lasted almost 5 or 6 pages. And in the game, it is like this ;
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I like to think reborn!Krayt is a cosmic horror elevated to the highest ranks of Sithdom. Not so much that he'd stomp Vader, who is himself one of the baddest Sith Lords ever, but on par with Revan or something.Reborn!Krayt > Vader > Krayt
Interesting. You think Revan>Vader?
Originally posted by Marco1907
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Ok yeah in the comic. Not in the novel which I always took as the more true version of events. But even in the comic she was shooting some form of Lightning power at him.
In any case, we know who won that fight (mainly via the Force) and we know that was a much weaker incarnation of Marek.
Originally posted by Marco1907
In the game and novel, yeah. In the novel he thinks and talks about stardestroyer and how is he going to manipulate and that lasted almost 5 or 6 pages. And in the game, it is like this ;
LOL I'll have to check the exact number of pages again, but 5 pages of a book do not equate an hour. A book can describe a second per page if it likes.
Originally posted by Marco1907
And in the game, it is like this ;
Mostly game play so non canon.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Maybe Shaak Ti can manipulate a star destroyer too.... 💃
Nah she's clearly weaker than DS Galen in the Force. She's much weaker than LS Galen who just barely pulled off the Star Destroyer feat himself.
Point still stands Vader's/Galen's TK > Windu's TK.
