We must however take note that the Exile was the person Traya was relying on entirely, I am not saying Traya held back but I don't think she was being as focused as she could have been, the dialogue of the fight makes it seem like she was teaching yet another lesson.
Her stealth and mind abilities however could prove lethal against Dooku.
Originally posted by Arhael
Dooku did not get ragdolled by Yoda. Why should there even be such possibility that Traya would?
Who said anything about Traya ragdolling him?
Though Yoda never actually tried to attack Dooku with the Force. Sidious, Yoda's equal, was able to choke him from across the galaxy.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Who said anything about Traya ragdolling him?Though Yoda never actually tried to attack Dooku with the Force. Sidious, Yoda's equal, was able to choke him from across the galaxy.
Dooku: "It is obvious that this contest couldn't be decided by our knowledge of the Force but by our skills with a lightsaber".
Yoda did not disagree.
You don't have to ragdoll someone to win via the Force.
Yoda just doesn't like going at someone with the Force. He's obviously more powerful than Dooku and could in fact kick his ass with TK. I don't see why Sidious, the guy who radolled Maul and Savage at the same time, needs to catch Dooku off guard to pwn him.
Yes, because it is easier to engage in lightsaber combat, while you can barely walk.
Nah, I don't buy it that Yoda "could". Example with brothers is irrelevant, Sidious even turned away to make the attack less expected. If there is an opportunity to successfully Force blast someone, Yoda has no qualms of doing it as he demonstrated on Sidious on two occasions.
Yeah, I always took it to mean that, too. He wasn't hurling anything back at Dooku, other than the one burst of lightning. When he says it's clear the contest cannot be decided by their knowledge of the force, I thought he meant because it's clear Yoda is just defending everything he throws and not trying to do shit back, so he engages him in sabers.
Originally posted by Nephthys
"A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."
Originally posted by Nephthys
I may go Dooku too.Yeah but if Dooku can tank her Force attacks and get in close she's boned.
Not really, the Exile was a master duelist. She beat Atris, a purely physical Juyo master of the high council in pure saber combat, in Atris' personal Nexus...
Traya held her own against Surik for quite some time.
Originally posted by Arhael
Yeah, that's why Yoda Force hurls himself at Dooku with raging *wrawrr*, which totally contradicts the quote. Unless using Force jump to initiate an attack doesn't count or his lightsaber attacks weren't guided by the Force. It's a good quote to teach younglings but that's as far as it goes.
Yeah, lets just completely disregard what Yoda himself has stated on two separate occasions because your opinion is better than him. Seems legit.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, lets just completely disregard what Yoda himself has stated on two separate occasions because your opinion is better than him. Seems legit.
Originally posted by Selenial
Not really, the Exile was a master duelist. She beat Atris, a purely physical Juyo master of the high council in pure saber combat, in Atris' personal Nexus...
Traya held her own against Surik for quite some time.
Originally posted by Selenial
I rate Dooku higher than you and am in no way saying she's better.
I just know that he won't be able to lol smash as soon as he gets in saber range, she will be able to retreat or camo etc.
Originally posted by Arhael
It's not just my opinion, Yoda's actions speak for themselves. Destroying droids with TK. Disarming Ventress with TK. Force blasting Sidious and sending a platform at him. Heck, even sending Dooku's own lightning back at him is considered using the Force to attack. It's not my fault that Yoda consistently violated his own claim.
None of those are particularly aggressive or violate the spirit of his words. You can point out supposed inconsistencies if you want but the fact is that Yoda notably prefers not to aggressively attack people with the Force, which is why he didn't beat up Dooku despite obviously being capable of doing so. Just because he smashes some droids and harmlessly uses it against some people on occasion doesn't mean that he'd smack around his favorite apprentice with it.
Frankly, you'd have to be as high as Emp to think that Dooku stands a chance against Yoda in an all-out Force battle.