RJ, you should stop using EU sources, they mean nothing. Stick to the films and GL's comments. It is NOT a known trick, and GL himself has said that QGJ's voice in AOTC is the first time it has EVER become apparent that there is any way a Jedi can continue to have a presence after his death (and also that the whole disappearing thing is a vital plot point that will be explained in the prequel films)
It is new- brand new. No Jedi has ever disapperaed at death before, or returned as a ghost. And when Ob-Wan says "Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" to Vader, he is referring to this new trick that pretty much no-one has seen before (not withstanding whatever will happen with QGJ).
im not quoting the expanded universe. a lot of this stuff i have read in STAR WARS: THE ESSENTIAL GUIDE TO CHARACTERS. sure, it has all the characters from the EU, but it also contains all the movie characters as well. so, anything in this book means nothing?the bio on boba fett is dead on. jango too. it has a section describing all the jedi from the battle of genosis, as well as the council. so just because it says saesee tiin is a telepath, it means she isnt? i dont think the EU authors have free rein to write whatever they want. on the inside jacket of the book it says: COPYRIGHT 1995, 2002 BY LUCASFILM LTD. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. USED UNDER AUTHORIZATION. that statement alone shows that lucasfilms pretty much agrees with everything in the guide. every star wars book i own says the same thing, or something similar. all say "all rights reserved by lucasarts or lucasfilms, used under authorization" lucas even authorizes the artwork!!!!!!! its his galaxy, not ours. he created it, not us. NOTHING happens without his permission or authorization, whether its books, movies, or action figures. sorry, but it is as plain as writing on the wall.
Rogue- that is EU. Sorry. It is not canon- and that is according to Lucasfilm's OWN canon policy.
Therefore your quotes sources are irrelevant. I shall repeat again0 the ONLY relevant things are the films and GL's own words. Anything said in books, games and guides has NO canonical status.
His authorisation is irrelevant. He does not go around checking every plot detail to say that is now part of his storyline, all he does is make some guidelines about what they were NOT allowed to do (For the okd books, The Clone Wars, Anakin's mother, and so on). He lets them do whatever else they like but they must all understand- and do- that is is NOT part of his storyline and they have NO bearing on the films, and the examples of this are too numoerous to mention.
Canon sources ONLY here, please. Keep all other stuff to the dedicated EU section, thanks.
They very fact you quoted something as saying that a Jedi in the past had disappeared when GL has said that this has NOT happened should show to you the unreliability of your sources.
ush, tell me where i can find a copy of this "CANON" policy. id like to see it. or you could e mail it to me. either way, id like to see it and be proven wrong. until then, im sticking to my guns. by the way, i read an article on one of the authors that penned one of the new jedi order books. i forget which one it was, ill try to find it. anyway, the author said that before the book was printed, he had to go to skywalker ranch and talk to lucas about the plot. im not making this up. if lucas is talking to the guy about the plot, then its obvious he is "approving" the story line.
Feel free to mail the continuity and production editors at Lucasfilm, Rogue Jedi, who will confirm for you that anything not written by George Lucas himself is not canon. The novelizations, radio dramas and screenplays get a lesser canon status, overridden by what is seen in anything above them.
That is simply a fact. Feel free to not accept it if you want- but this is NOT an EU section, and I am simply making it plain that EU sources will NOT be accepted here- that is the end of it. Keep them in the EU section. Period.
Yes, cookies, you are right.
whatever. i will drop EU because i believe in turning the other cheek. i have my opinions and you have yours. i am not gonna force mine upon you, just like you should not force yours upon me. but, dont ORDER me to drop it. you dont talk to people like that because you dont agree with their opinions. i realize that you have been here a lot longer than i have, but that doesnt give you the right to order me around or tell me where to take my opinions. have some manners, man. also, im not the only one quoting EU here. im the only one getting called on it, though. so, no bad blood, ok?
I AM ordering you to drop it, RJ, because I am a mod here and it is my job to keep these sections in order. When a mod tells you to do something here, you do it. And whenever anyone else quotes EU in these sections we tell them the same thing- it's EU, and it does not count. That is entirely seperate from any subject being debated, it is simply a rule of the forum- keep EU in it place.
That is not a personal attack on you, it is part of the administration of this area, and I have every right to ask it.