Originally posted by leonidas
how come you assumed they didn't? that's the only reason they would recognize 'schism' material i thought.... shrug
I didn't really make an opinion either way. In theory if there had always been a Doomworld with a fanatical preacher that would explain Strange. But at the same time Strange as an actor because they both remember works too.
Basically didn't want to judge before we had concrete knowledge, which Weds' issue might supply.
my assumption was that doom ordered him to. i mean, what would be the point of BREAKING the lie? strange would know the entire multiverse is gone, nothing else out there, so why try spoiling it? /shrug
maybe doom is too powerful anyway and could undo whatever effort he might make? maybe more likely is that he and doom came to some sort of an understanding? there are still about 1 000 000 questions in need of answering in this series...
Strange could have rebuilt in his own image. He didn't want it and Doom as left with that burden. He likely helps God Emperor Doom maintain order because Battleworld's existence itself is precarious. I don't think Doom forced Strange to be his subordinate at all. Doom refers to him as a friend and even asks why he continues with his loyal minion charade in private which leads to Stephen breaking character.
Originally posted by Astner
As far as we know there is no reason for Strange to follow such an order. And if it was as simple as Doom having gotten more powerful, then Strange would likely have worked against Doom behind his back.
i'd disagree with this. maybe the word 'ordered' was too strong, but i suspect he's what he's doing at doom's...suggesting. after all, what would there be to gain in trying to go against doom? strange could just be playing along for now, or he could believe this new world is really the best thing given the options. there really wouldn't be a reason to work against doom at this point as the world seems at least fair and doom doesn't seem to have too much of a hand in the day-to-day stuff. strange seems to me to have more control in the every day stuff than doom does at this point.
since we don't really know what brought them together though, it's impossible to say for sure what their relationship is and why they're doing what they're doing. clearly they both recall the past though and i can imagine very shortly everyone else will be made aware of it soon....
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Way i interpreted it was that Loki was simply making a point of the resilience of stories. They're such an inherent and fundamental part of existence that you [B]could wipe out the whole omniverse let alone the multiverse and stories would still exist. Hyperbole of course. But Loki was just throwing in the larger scale of "omniverse" to bolster and emphasize the point thats all.Loki wasnt defining the scale of destruction as omniversal. Thats contrary to all other accounts on panel. [/B]
Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Omniverse could be possible.
That contradicts all solicitations and all other on panel references to the scale of the destruction. So it is likely Loki was just making a point about how you cant get rid of stories even if you destroyed the entire omniverse. A point. Thats all.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'd disagree with this. maybe the word 'ordered' was too strong, but i suspect he's what he's doing at doom's...suggesting. after all, what would there be to gain in trying to go against doom? strange could just be playing along for now, or he could believe this new world is really the best thing given the options. there really wouldn't be a reason to work against doom at this point as the world seems at least fair and doom doesn't seem to have too much of a hand in the day-to-day stuff. strange seems to me to have more control in the every day stuff than doom does at this point.since we don't really know what brought them together though, it's impossible to say for sure what their relationship is and why they're doing what they're doing. clearly they both recall the past though and i can imagine very shortly everyone else will be made aware of it soon....
I agree. Maybe keeping up the pretence is necessary to the continued existence of reality somehow. Maybe if everyone was to remember it would trigger something or maybe cause further conflict with the Beyonders somehow.
Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Omniverse could be possible.
"It's never the end of all stories. They get everywhere like roaches. Wipe out the whole Omniverse—there'll still be a story somewhere. Loads, probably."
It's clearly not used to describe the Incursions.
Not good.
Bit of a longer wait.
Originally posted by Astner
The way the word omniverse is used in that context is very reminiscent of Mark Gruenwald's original definition. Where the omniverse was the collection of all franchises and stories that had been told by them."It's never the end of all stories. They get everywhere like roaches. Wipe out the whole Omniverse—there'll still be a story somewhere. Loads, probably."
It's clearly not used to describe the Incursions.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Not good.