Originally posted by Selenial
Traya, so easily.Oh, and Traya also wins in a fight.
I don't think Traya is winning easily. Check this: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/barsenthor-respect-thread/98469/
I don't know who wins, but it shouldn't be an easy battle.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
I don't think Traya is winning easily. Check this: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/barsenthor-respect-thread/98469/I don't know who wins, but it shouldn't be an easy battle.
I've played the Consular story 4 times and it's by far my favorite, I don't need to read a respect thread full of Hyperbolas sentences to know what her feats are...
Traya wins, easily.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Personally I go with the Barsen'thor, since I'm kind of a fanboy of her. She has way more than hyperbole with her amazing TK feats and beating Vivicar and the First Son.
I don't know, all the quests in Swtor seem to indicate that you take your companion on your quests.
We know the Knight fought Darth Angral with Kira, we know that the Inquisitor fought Zash with Kem.... We have yet to find out if Vivicar and the First Son were killed with Qyzen/Nadia's aid, so I'm skeptical of using those feats.
On the other hand we know Revan faced Malak alone, Traya faced Surik alone, etc....
Besides, Choking Sion like a pussy is probably higher on my list than Barsen'Thor's TK feats.
Originally posted by Selenial
I've played the Consular story 4 times and it's by far my favorite, I don't need to read a respect thread full of Hyperbolas sentences to know what her feats are...Traya wins, easily.
I don't think her feats (is she canonically a woman?) are hyperbole (which I haven't seen in the respect thread anyways). I also don't get how is Traya winning easily, especially considering that the Barsen'thor has more impressive combat skill feats. Her TP is not going to give her the win because she doesn't use it that much in combat, and her TK doesn't seem superior to me.
Originally posted by Selenial
I don't know, all the quests in Swtor seem to indicate that you take your companion on your quests.We know the Knight fought Darth Angral with Kira, we know that the Inquisitor fought Zash with Kem.... We have yet to find out if Vivicar and the First Son were killed with Qyzen/Nadia's aid, so I'm skeptical of using those feats.
On the other hand we know Revan faced Malak alone, Traya faced Surik alone, etc....
Besides, Choking Sion like a pussy is probably higher on my list than Barsen'Thor's TK feats.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
I don't think her feats (is she canonically a woman?) are hyperbole (which I haven't seen in the respect thread anyways). I also don't get how is Traya winning easily, especially considering that the Barsen'thor has more impressive combat skill feats. Her TP is not going to give her the win because she doesn't use it that much in combat, and her TK doesn't seem superior to me.
I don't know, but I always picture my characters when we talk about them and mine are all female.
And I know her feats aren't, but most of those threads (this one included) are full of quotes like "A powerful padawan" "Strong in the force" "Stronger at age 4 than I was at 15" which in my mind, are meaningless.
I find Barsen'thor a powerful Jedi, there is no doubt about that. Traya however is a master swordsmen, something the Consular has never been attributed with. Their force levels are similar, but Traya seems to be stronger at in combat techniques. She wields incredible TK, potent Dark Healing, Shatterpoint beyond that of anyone else we've seen.... I just think Barsen'thor III is outmatched here.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Most bosses don't fight alone.
The end of act bosses generally do.
As for Sion, he is a far above average Sith, he might not be close to her level but ragdolling him like that is still impressive.
If you won't listen to that, then how about her effortlessly defeating the Exile's companions when they faced her?
Originally posted by Selenial
I don't know, all the quests in Swtor seem to indicate that you take your companion on your quests.We know the Knight fought Darth Angral with Kira, we know that the Inquisitor fought Zash with Kem.... We have yet to find out if Vivicar and the First Son were killed with Qyzen/Nadia's aid, so I'm skeptical of using those feats.
On the other hand we know Revan faced Malak alone, Traya faced Surik alone, etc....
Besides, Choking Sion like a pussy is probably higher on my list than Barsen'Thor's TK feats.
Qyzen got his ass kicked by Nalen Raloch (before he got Rajivari's training iirc), you really think he'd do much against Vivicar, who was a terrifyingly powerful Sith Lord drawing on the power of hundreds of Jedi Masters? And any aid Qyzen did give is greatly off set by the fact that the Consular was massively weakened by the Shielding technique plus had to fight through a capital ship to get to him. Likewise Nadia is merely a padawan, no match for the First Son. She didn't do anything in the cutscenes before or after the main fight.
Because... Sion is so badass with TK? Sorry but no dice with me. Blasting through a house sized blast door beats ragdolling a chump like Sion. Plus most of the Barsen'thor's TK feats were done in a weakened condition and early in her career.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Qyzen got his ass kicked by Nalen Raloch (before he got Rajivari's training iirc), you really think he'd do much against Vivicar, who was a terrifyingly powerful Sith Lord drawing on the power of hundreds of Jedi Masters? And any aid Qyzen did give is greatly off set by the fact that the Consular was massively weakened by the Shielding technique plus had to feat through a capital ship to get to him. Likewise Nadia is merely a padawan, no match for the First Son. She didn't do anything in the cutscenes before or after the main fight.Because... Sion is so badass with TK? Sorry but no dice with me. Blasting through a house sized blast door beats ragdolling a chump like Sion. Plus most of the Barsen'thor's TK feats were done in a weakened condition and early in her career.
And yet one would argue that Lord Vivicar's strength was sorcery, and being cut from his sources of power means the rituals he used cost him more than he gained.
I don't know why I'd even need to go into the fact that the First Son saved the Barsen'thor's life, Syo Bakarn fighting him in his mind was perhaps the only reason she survived that battle, seeing as Syo incapacitated his alter ego and wasted his energy healing the Consular...
She also effortlessly slaughtered 4 jedi with TK all in short succession, and was considered more powerful than Nihilus in TK despite his little starship feat until he got powerful enough with Drain...
Originally posted by Selenial
The end of act bosses generally do.
As for Sion, he is a far above average Sith, he might not be close to her level but ragdolling him like that is still impressive.
If you won't listen to that, then how about her effortlessly defeating the Exile's companions when they faced her?