Apprentices of Tyranus Free-For-All
General Grievous (LOE/ROTS), Asajj Ventress (Season 5), and Savage Opress (Season 5) all clash head to head in a free for all duel.
Who will be standing by the end of this bloody confrontation? The Apprentice who left Tyranus for Maul, The apprentice who Left Tyranus for the Nightsisters, or the apprentice who left Tyranus's corpse aboard his ship?
Discounting the nonsense that TCW subjected Grievous to, I'll back him. He's at least as skilled as Ventress as a duelist if not flat out superior, and has better physical stats than both of them. They have telekinesis on their side, but aside from BFRing him I don't see how they can kill him with it.
Originally posted by ILS
Discounting the nonsense that TCW subjected Grievous to, I'll back him.
I'd give it to Grievous for a majority. At his peak, he outclasses either of his adversaries as duelists, and boasts substantially greater speed than them in combat. Though Ventress and Savage both have the edge of telekinesis, I doubt Ventress would use it consistently enough to actually take Grievous out of the fight, and while I think this is something Savage is capable of doing under the right circumstances, I doubt it would happen for a majority.
Something to be addressed here is Grievous's hubris. The relatively low performances he gives in some of his TCW fights, were often a result of overwhelming hubris. Fortunately for the good General, this appears to only come in play up to a certain point in time. Ever since he failed to kill Ahsoka on Florrum, he appears to take his duels a lot more seriously. In every fight we've seen him in since then, meaning the Utapau Arc where he beat Kenobi, Son of Dathomir where he contended with Maul, Labyrinth of Evil where he held his own against Windu, and Revenge of the Sith where he was overwhelming Kenobi's defenses. His second duel with Ahsoka is the last time I can think of where his hubris gets the better of him, and from that point on is when he attains the best of his dueling feats. I doubt his hubris will hinder him in this fight, given that this is him at his peak.
So aside from the fact that I consider Grievous the greatest warrior of the three, I also believe he is the best suited for the occasion. His greater number of blades provides him with more defensive coverage, offensive viability, and unpredictability than Savage or Asajj, which should be a decent edge in a free for all such as this. Also for consideration is the tactical computers slaved to Grievous's brain via cybernetics, which are the same ones that allowed him to adapt and respond to Windu's Vaapad offensive.
So in a multiple opponent free for all such as this, Grievous is the greatest duelist, is the most unpredictable, and can adapt to the situation more easily than his opponents can, and for these reasons, I'd say Grievous wins the majority of the fights here.
1- Savage
2- Ventress
3- Grievous
All battles would be close though.
Also, lets not forget, Season 4 & 5 Savage is even more powerful than the one in Season 3,
Dooku himself declared ;
''That creature Savage Opress is growing stronger and stronger as each day passes... He is a threat to all of us."
Originally posted by Marco1907
''That creature Savage Opress is growing stronger and stronger as each day passes... He is a threat to all of us."
If we're going by quotes, then didn't Sidious himself think that Dooku was plotting to betray him with Ventress and ordered Dooku to kill her because He considered her a threat?
But, anyway, i'm going with Grevious, despite his odd performances, he's a powerful duelist and is pretty capable of taking on Ventress and Savage, and this is a free for all, he has(you saw nothing dmb) Four lightsabers at his disposal. Things could get problematic.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Here's a little thread addressing that
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=595911
I believe it was Filoni who said that General Grievous isn't skilled enough to fight a Council Member by himself, and is a coward. Yes, that includes Yarael Poof.
Separate EU Grievous from TCW which is inherently very inconsistent with EU portrayals, and you're good to go.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
If we're going by quotes, then didn't Sidious himself think that Dooku was plotting to betray him with Ventress and ordered Dooku to kill her because He considered her a threat?But, anyway, i'm going with Grevious, despite his odd performances, he's a powerful duelist and is pretty capable of taking on Ventress and Savage, and this is a free for all, he ass Four lightsabers at his disposal. Things could get problematic.
True. I never said this would be ease fight though, but still Savage already proved that he can take Asajj in Season 4, and his sheer strength gives him the advantage against Asajj's makashi.
Originally posted by Marco1907
True. I never said this would be ease fight though, but still Savage already proved that he can take Asajj in Season 4, and his sheer strength gives him the advantage against Asajj's makashi.
Well she was down to a single saber when Opress beat her.
So I'd personally give Ventress the Saber fight, but I still give Opress the edge in an all out due to his Beastly Tk.
Sabers:
1. Ventress
2. Grievous
3. Opress
(Ventress vs Grievous will be close though).
All Out:
1. Opress
2. Ventress
3. Grievous
(But honestly, any one of them can win on any given day).
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
he has(you saw nothing dmb) Four lightsabers at his disposal. Things could get problematic.
Actually Grievous has consistently performed better fighting with 2 Sabers.
But yeah I can see 4 Sabers causing someone as untrained and unskilled as Opress some serious trouble.
Micro-series Grievous make no sense to me. Dooku himself said in LoE novel that Grievous can't defeat council member level jedi masters ;
Grievous and his guards were dancing. Going through their programmed motions. An Ataro attack answered by Shii-Cho; Soresu answered by Lusma... Dooku couldn't suffer another moment of it. "No, no, stop, stop," he yelled, coming to his feet and striding to the middle of the training circle, his arms extended to both sides. When he was certain that he had their attention, he swung to Grievous. "Power moves served you well on Hypori against Jedi such as Daakman Barrek and Tarr Seir. But I pity you should you have to face off against any of the Council Masters."-Taken from ; Labyrinth of Evil
Since Dave Filoni was close to Lucas, and can learn his opinions on Star Wars, I am going with TCW / Movie canon Grievous, which is council member jedi level at best,
and clearly Savage and Asajj can be a little better than that level.