My point is that a direct feat-to-feat comparison may not be the best thing. Many Force users' greatest showings are not environmental destruction, but the scaling they gain off ragdolling others. Maul's also ragdolled Obi-Wan without circumstances in the comic.
Muur's "Mind domination" was shit, btw. At most, it amounted to glorified temptation, and it only worked on Shado Vao and non-Force sensitives like Pulsipher. ****ing Celeste Morne resisted it. As a person with no interest in the power that Muur could offer him, Cade wouldn't need a whole lot of willpower to get through that. Maul certainly would be able to.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Maul's also ragdolled Obi-Wan without circumstances in the comic.
Right, so Kenobi literally throwing himself at Maul, monologing and getting interrupted at the middle of the sentence doesn't count as being "distracted", but Kyp not looking at Kenth when he got owned does. Lmao.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
On what basis?
On the basis of the offpanel screens.
http://i.imgur.com/dLWCQNE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BROtJLE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L9gsbtt.jpg
Even just reading out the lines without a realistic break between dialogues is roughly a minute and a half.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Right, so Kenobi literally throwing himself at Maul, monologing and getting interrupted at the middle of the sentence doesn't count as being "distracted", but Kyp not looking at Kenth when he got owned does. Lmao.
Yes, I'm sure charging at someone (because I always leave myself open when I engage in battle with someone) and getting choked by them is in the same ballpark was getting attacked by a third party when you're concentrating on something else entirely, since, you know, I always have my defenses covered for a random attack when I'm doing something.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Didn't accept what?
I recall you dismissing Muur's duel against Krayt as lasting a page, even though off-panel, it was four or five pages. But I could be wrong.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Yes, I'm sure charging at someone (because I always leave myself open when I engage in battle with someone) and getting choked by them is in the same ballpark was getting attacked by a third party when you're concentrating on something else entirely, since, you know, I always have my defenses covered for a random attack when I'm doing something.
Kyp wasn't concentrating on anything, he just pushed Corran and then was standing there. He might've not expected to get pinned to the wall by Kenth, but Kenobi wasn't expected to get choked either, otherwise he wouldn't have been monologing. And he wasn't even in a fighting stance anyway, he just wanted to trade himself for the girl or something.
All in all, your acceptance or dismissal of what is a legit ragdolling and what is not is pretty inconsistent. I remember you even trying to write off Vader ragdolling Starkiller as a "momentary laps in defense", when Kenobi pretty much only gets ragdolled like that...
Originally posted by SunRazer
I recall you dismissing Muur's duel against Krayt as lasting a page, even though off-panel, it was four or five pages. But I could be wrong.
Doubt it, unless out of ignorance. I don't dismiss off-screen/page out of the length of a duel.
