Sheev vs Plagueis and Maul

Started by NewGuy014 pages

That's not true, though. Filoni said he could have ended the fight at any point.

Any version of Sidious could stomp Maul

Originally posted by carthage
Any version of Sidious could stomp Maul
I know. But say this is TPM Sidious, if the starting distance is close enough Plagueis can engage Sidious with enough pressure as to prevent Maul from being stomped right away.

If Maul can run interference for long enough I can see the duo winning.

Im assuming its ROTS or DE. TPM Sidious would lose to Plagueis

Why not even the odds? Let's say it's TPM Sidious, but after he killed Plagueis and received the power boost.

Plagueis wins up until AOTCs Sidious imo.

Originally posted by carthage
Any version of Sidious could stomp Maul

Young Palpatine get stomps by Maul.

Originally posted by Q99
Sidious still had to split up Maul and Opress to be in a position where he could kill at any time.

Granted, splitting them up wasn't too hard for him, but when they were both attacking he didn't have nearly the same degree of edge he did when it was solo.

After re-watching the fight, I think Sidious couldn't defeat the brothers without using the force attacks.

YouTube video

-2.22 he needed to pull them with the force

-2.47 he needed to knock out Maul with the force

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Plagueis wins up until AOTCs Sidious imo.

Any reason?

Maul dies

Originally posted by carthage
Plagueis is infinitely more powerful than Savage, Sidious isnt overpowering him Via tk so that is a bad example. Also Sidious already dominated Savage and couldve killed him at any point, the only reason he cant do it to Plagueis is he approaches him in power. He's already shown the precedent for dominating him with the force, he can do so again and beat Plagueis via a hardfought duel

I think you misunderstood me. My implication was that Sidious won't be able to take out Maul with Force, Plagueis will keep him too busy for that. I agree that Plagueis will be more challenging than Opress.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Maul dies
Originally posted by NewGuy01
That's not true, though. Filoni said he could have ended the fight at any point.

No he didn't.

I don't know why people assume Sidious needed to split them up to defeat them, considering how Sidious was outpacing them by a significant margin, and constantly pausing, giving them opportunity to strategize their next moves (which is plenty of time to use the force if he needed to split them up) before they were split up. Sidious using the force on Maul was because he put himself in a disadvantage position by deactivating his sabers mid-duel and doing a stunt while Maul was right in front of him, which resulted with Sidious on one knee, sabers still deactivated, and not in combat stance, which Maul tried to take advantage of, causing Sidious to respond with the force. Other than that, Sidious was stomping them pretty hard despite being outnumbered, and there's absolutely nothing to suggest he had to split them up to finish them.

Q99, you constantly assert that armored Krayt stomped Cade just because he pierced his guard, but don't use that same logic with Sidious against the brothers, despite the fact that Sidious was piercing their guards throughout the fight and wasn't fighting to kill Maul, similar to Krayt wanting to take Cade alive.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Q99, you constantly assert that armored Krayt stomped Cade just because he pierced his guard, but don't use that same logic with Sidious against the brothers, despite the fact that Sidious was piercing their guards throughout the fight and wasn't fighting to kill Maul, similar to Krayt wanting to take Cade alive.

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were accusing Q of double standards when it comes to Legacy characters.

That doesn't sound at all like him.

Q has always been very fair and even-handed.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Q has always been very fair and even-handed.

Of course he has.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were accusing Q of double standards when it comes to Legacy characters.

That doesn't sound at all like him.

What Neph said. Q is pretty fair, just as Neph is. Lol

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
What Neph said. Q is pretty fair, just as Neph is. Lol

Q isnt that bad lmao, putting a loser like Bane on Sidious tier is a whole other level of stupidity

Q's really not that bad, but he is a bit silly when it comes to juxtaposing Krayt and Sheev.

I chalk it up to sheer jealousy over the fact that Sheev is better than Krayt. More powerful, successful, intelligent, skilled, dangerous, handsome, etc.