Maul puts up a better fight than Jedi Council did
http://www.starwars.com/video/wrath-of-the-sith
Dave Filoni : He (Maul) puts up a better fight than jedi council did.
Alright, lets see who was saying that Sidious was toying ???
Maul puts up a better fight than Jedi Council did
http://www.starwars.com/video/wrath-of-the-sith
Dave Filoni : He (Maul) puts up a better fight than jedi council did.
Alright, lets see who was saying that Sidious was toying ???
facepalm
First, he said Savage, not Maul, put up a better fight than the Jedi High Council.
Second, that's because Palpatine "unleashed his full fury" against the lesser Jedi Masters (The New Essential Chronology), he wasn't toying with them.
Third, I've literally been through this dozens of times: Filoni says on various occasions that Sidious was enjoying himself the entire fight, the brothers really weren't gonna touch him, it was an ass kicking, yadda yadda. It's a point that's been hammered home again and again and again and again and again.
Sheev >>>>>>>>>>> Maul and Savage. Deal with it, move on. He's better.
Just as I thought.... Still stupid excuses... 😆
And ''various occasions'' 😆 , show me that ''various occasions'' please... It seems he talks about that more than once. But he didn't. He said ; Maul>Savage puts up a better fight than Fisto - Tiin - Kolar etc. or any council member (except Yoda & Windu) deal with it.
Re: Maul puts up a better fight than Jedi Council did
Originally posted by Marco1907
http://www.starwars.com/video/wrath-of-the-sithAlright, lets see who was saying that Sidious was toying ???
Oh you just seen that now?
Yeah that was one of his first comments on the episode.
Originally posted by The_TempestSecond, that's because Palpatine "unleashed his full fury" against the lesser Jedi Masters (The New Essential Chronology), he wasn't toying with them.
Well the official site also says "Fueled by the dark side, Sidious is transformed into an agile whirlwind of destruction.." when up against the Maul bros- The Lawless episode gallery Slide 21:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/clone-wars/the-lawless-episode-gallery
Re: Re: Maul puts up a better fight than Jedi Council did
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Well the official site also says "Fueled by the dark side, Sidious is transformed into an agile whirlwind of destruction.." when up against the Maul bros- The Lawless episode gallery Slide 21:http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/clone-wars/the-lawless-episode-gallery
I don't dispute that. But that doesn't equate to "fighting his hardest to kill these mofos."
Don't backtrack now, DP. Nothing's changed.
Originally posted by Marco1907And ''various occasions'' 😆 , show me that ''various occasions'' please...
Here:
http://www.starwars.com/news/interview-dave-filoni-on-star-wars-the-clone-wars-season-five-part-2
It turned out really great. It’s nice to see the villain of Star Wars really kick the butt of other villains you think are powerful, which helps establish Sidious as “Oh, yeah. This is why he is the Sith Lord.”
IGN: He really always does have the upper hand in that fight.
Filoni: And he’s enjoying himself while he does it.
Re: Re: Re: Maul puts up a better fight than Jedi Council did
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I don't dispute that. But that doesn't equate to "fighting his hardest to kill these mofos."Don't backtrack now, DP. Nothing's changed.
Not backtracking damn it! 😠
I'm not claiming Maul and Opress were a match for Sidious, or that Sidious tried his "Very Best". Just that he tried and kicked their asses.
And I do wish you would give Maul and Opress enough credit to perform better than Fisto, Tiin and Kolar. Even Filoni gives them that much.
Especially now that we've seen Maul capable of engaging Windu + Secura, it would make no sense at all to think Maul can't last any longer than Fisto.
Originally posted by Arhael
"Meanwhile, Sidious duels the Sith brothers, never wavering from his position of superiority. Fueled by the dark side, Sidious is transformed into an agile, whirlwind of destruction".Whirlwind of destruction doesn't sound like toying or holding back. At all.
Yeah, and releasing two guys you have helplessly pinned to a wall while laughing and allowing them to arm themselves doesn't sound like going all out. Laughing and smiling during the entire fight doesn't seem like you're particularly stressed. Deactivating your lightsabers and willfully dancing around a guy's clumsy strikes doesn't seem like you're in any danger. Allowing the one enemy to run past you and comfort his dying brother while you mock him from above doesn't jive with being legitimately threatened. Having the supervising director indicate again and again and again that you kicked these guys' ass, enjoyed yourself the whole time, and that they couldn't even touch you doesn't sound like a particularly tense affair for you.
Keep trying Arhael.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Yeah, I see it now. That's a good proof for Maul and Savage's power don't you think ?
To be honest I don't know why anyone would put them on the same level as Fisto, Tiin and Kolar in the first place.
Opress has beaten Adi Gallia, Plo Koon and Ventress. And he's hurled a starship.
Maul has stomped Opress in seconds, engaged Windu and Secura together and also hurled a starship.
It's clear to me those 2 are above those 3 Council Members, (although Opress could struggle with any of them due to his lack of skill). But if people need a quote from Filoni to give them even that much credit then so be it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Maul puts up a better fight than Jedi Council did
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Not backtracking damn it! 😠I'm not claiming Maul and Opress were a match for Sidious, or that Sidious tried his "Very Best". Just that he tried and kicked their asses.
Trying to determine Sidious's level of effort with any literal measure of exactitude is a fool's errand. We know from the sources (The New Essential Chronology) and his visible demeanor that Sheev took the fight with Mace Windu's posse much more seriously than he took the fight with the Zabraks. No smiles, no laughs, no taunts, no catch-and-release, no cat-and-mouse. Just quick, efficient, brutal death. That's just a fact. Not open to debate.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And I do wish you would give Maul and Opress enough credit to perform better than Fisto, Tiin and Kolar. Even Filoni gives them that much.Especially now that we've seen Maul capable of engaging Windu + Secura, it would make no sense at all to think Maul can't last any longer than Fisto.
Maul? Sure. Savage? No. He lasted only as long as Sidious wanted him to.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Here:http://www.starwars.com/news/interview-dave-filoni-on-star-wars-the-clone-wars-season-five-part-2
It turned out really great. It’s nice to see the villain of Star Wars really kick the butt of other villains you think are powerful, which helps establish Sidious as “Oh, yeah. This is why he is the Sith Lord.”
IGN: He really always does have the upper hand in that fight.
Filoni: And he’s enjoying himself while he does it.
I know that, tempest said like there are more than that. 🙂
Originally posted by Marco1907
I know that, tempest said like there are more than that. 🙂
Here as well:
http://www.starwars.com/news/interview-dave-filoni-on-star-wars-the-clone-wars-season-five-part-2
The Vizsla fight, if you can believe it, was actually longer, too. And it’s hard to believe, because I kept cutting that thing down and cutting it down. At the end of the day, with Sidious, nobody was really going to be able to touch him. He had to be the strongest, most dangerous guy. And you could see at a certain point, he just puts his lightsabers away at the end of the fight and says, “I’m done with this,” and goes in and mauls Maul, so to speak. I love the part where Maul begs at the end, because that’s the thing about Sith. At the end of the day, if you break them…
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
To be honest I don't know why anyone would put them on the same level as Fisto, Tiin and Kolar in the first place.Opress has beaten Adi Gallia, Plo Koon and Ventress. And he's hurled a starship.
Maul has stomped Opress in seconds, engaged Windu and Secura together and also hurled a starship.
It's clear to me those 2 are above those 3 Council Members, (although Opress could struggle with any of them due to his lack of skill). But if people need a quote from Filoni to give them even that much credit then so be it.
And also in SoD 04, there was another chance for Sidious to speedblitz, but he didn't even tried, instead they trash talked.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Here as well:http://www.starwars.com/news/interview-dave-filoni-on-star-wars-the-clone-wars-season-five-part-2
The Vizsla fight, if you can believe it, was actually longer, too. And it’s hard to believe, because I kept cutting that thing down and cutting it down. At the end of the day, with Sidious, nobody was really going to be able to touch him. He had to be the strongest, most dangerous guy. And you could see at a certain point, he just puts his lightsabers away at the end of the fight and says, “I’m done with this,†and goes in and mauls Maul, so to speak. I love the part where Maul begs at the end, because that’s the thing about Sith. At the end of the day, if you break them…
Doesn't look like important though, especially not like that IGN reportage.
