Originally posted by Sin I AM
Damn pretty weak
Its kind of like Prime Universal ft. We didn't see the Universe getting destroyed but we received a statement of what the blast did. Same here...we didn't see the depths of the blast Hulk and Betty created but Umar tells us they destroyed her Realm.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901497/Incredible_Hulks_635_013.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9lol. Maybe you didn't see it. i did
Its kind of like Prime Universal ft. We didn't see the Universe getting destroyed but we received a statement of what the blast did. Same here...we didn't see the depths of the blast Hulk and Betty created but Umar tells us they destroyed her Realm.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901497/Incredible_Hulks_635_013.jpg.html
Originally posted by Reflassshh
lol. Maybe you didn't see it. i didhttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/34486/1096001-monarch_destroys_a_universe.jpg
Where in that scan is the universe being destroyed?
The Time trapper showing is debatable. People at comic vine is discussing if Prime survived a Universe destruction.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/surtur-vs-superman-prime-614704/
Originally posted by carver9
The Time trapper showing is debatable. People at comic vine is discussing if Prime survived a Universe destruction.http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/surtur-vs-superman-prime-614704/
One guy's arguing, it looks like. That Isaac-clark guy. And by arguing, I mean low-balling like crazy.
Originally posted by carver9
The Time trapper showing is debatable. People at comic vine is discussing if Prime survived a Universe destruction.http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/surtur-vs-superman-prime-614704/
One guy is debating that, really??? 😆 😆
Originally posted by carver9
Their first fight is the only time Prime had an advantage against Superboy in a fight. They had 3 more fights after that with Superboy having the advantage in all. Hell, at one point, Prime ran away from Superboy after getting punching into a mountain/ground with a bloody lip. I promise you don't read comics with these characters in it.Him spinning around in a circle isn't him blitzing Flash. We seen how a fight between a serious Flash and Prime would go.
Scans of Spiderman ko'ing him since his power up during and after World War Hulk. Also 😂, I never said Hulk was unbeatable. Do you know the difference between Spiderman and Sun God? Also, Sun God is more powerful than Superboy...someone who humbled Prime with his fist.
Be honest with me. Have you read any comics with Hulk in it, let alone heart of monsters? This answer will determine if I am providing you scans. Also, what do you know of when it comes to Thor lightning? Do you think it has only been used as a blasting tool? Answer these questions for me and I will let you know if I'm posting scans because from what I've seen so far, you've provided nothing. Also, prove that the blast Prime withstood was universal without using statements.
Carver, are you trolling? Superboy has held no advantage against Prime. Punching him doesn't mean shit when he's never managed to put him down. In fact, one of the fights you say Superboy held an advantage ended with Superboy's death. This is absolutely retarded.
He was fast enough that they couldn't react, are you gonna lowball that too? And as I recall it took the combined power of multiple Flashes to send him to the Speed Force. Oh, have we? Post it then, because I'm sure you're not taking his phobia into account.
I brought up Spider-man just to show you how much lower Hulk's feats can go compared to Prime. And Sun God is a featless character aside from that one showing. Humbled by Superboy? Now I know you're trolling, Superboy has never defeated Prime.
Stop trying to back out, carver. I've read HotM, now put your money where you mouth is. As for the universe-buster, Reflassshh already provided that.
Originally posted by SensuiWhy more than vice versa? Did Superboy Prime not affect the Sinestro Corps Anti-Monitor?
A being far beyond Umar, the Mindless Ones, Armcheddon, and the rest of the forces WBH and Betty in the Dark Dimension destroyed?
Why in your mind would WBHs attacks have a greater impact on Prime then the other way around when he flew through the Anti-Monitor, who had previously survived a galaxy destroying attack and was killing Guardians (beings above herald level) with his anti-matter (which Prime actually endured)?
Prime's been hurt by herald level beings, and I don't think anyone would deny that, but he's also endured worst from beings above Hulk in the Anti-Monitor and Monarch.
Hurting him is one thing, putting him down permanently is another Naija Boy (minus Teen Titans).
Prime did affect Sinestro Corps Antimonitor....only after he had been rocked with a galaxy busting attack and taking an onslaught from the guardians for a while...and so considerably weakened. Hence its impressive but certainly not some all be end all..... and definitely not more impressive strength wise than Hulk in HOTM. Also WBH would certainly be able to rupture Monarchs armor if given the opportunity so I dont believe that Primes fight with Monarch is a good basis for a strength comparison. Most pertinently however, that version of Prime was even guardian amped and so is inapplicable in this scenario.
Furthermore, while Prime is extremely durable, the reason I assert that Hulks hit will be more efficacious is due to the fact that Prime even while having tanked some really impressive attacks has been consistently shown to be within the ability of herald level characters to harm. That is not to say he is easily put down but it is notable because in his limited appearances WBH was entirely beyond that. Furthermore, in the case of WBH unlike Prime, harming him would only get more difficult as the fight went on as his durability as well as the speed of his healing factor would only continue to progressively increase. Hence it is reasonable to assert that WBHs hits would be more impactful than vice versa.
Originally posted by Sensui
Having read through pages of this debate, with most posters giving the fight to Prime, I'm interested in hearing NON-CARVER arguments for Hulk winning the contest. Other than Naija Boy I haven't seen any other real arguments for Hulk other than Stoic trying to present a counter to Prime's overwhelming advantages in durability and speed.Why more than vice versa? Did Superboy Prime not affect the Sinestro Corps Anti-Monitor?
A being far beyond Umar, the Mindless Ones, Armcheddon, and the rest of the forces WBH and Betty in the Dark Dimension destroyed?
Why in your mind would WBHs attacks have a greater impact on Prime then the other way around when he flew through the Anti-Monitor, who had previously survived a galaxy destroying attack and was killing Guardians (beings above herald level) with his anti-matter (which Prime actually endured)?
Prime's been hurt by herald level beings, and I don't think anyone would deny that, but he's also endured worst from beings above Hulk in the Anti-Monitor and Monarch.
Hurting him is one thing, putting him down permanently is another Naija Boy (minus Teen Titans).
This also caught my eye and I have to disagree.
Why is this feat MORE POWERFUL than Prime shifting the CENTER of the DC universe by moving planetary bodies so fast characters thought they were being teleported?
How many planets would have to be moved to shift the center of an entire Universe? It is estimated there are over 50 Billion planets in the Milky Way Galaxy alone
http://www.space.com/10982-kepler-alien-planets-billion-galaxy.html
With over 100 Billion Galaxies in the Universe the amount of planets are staggering, a quick calculation is a 5 followed by 21 zeros. Even if Prime moved only 1% of that number it would still equal Quintillions of planets being moved at faster than light speeds.
Why is Prime's feat of shifting an entire Universe's dimensions any less of a feat than the total power of Hulk and Betty's SHARED feat affecting the entire Dark Dimension?
And in relation to the planet moving, you cannot simply cumulate the number of planets that Prime moved and compare that to the Hulk feat as that is multiple different strength feats done in rapid succession. The feat of accelerating a planet FTL is quantifiably similar in scale but lacks the comparative character component which is the most impressive part of the HOTM feat.
