- Hyperion -

Originally posted by Newjak

Was is not said in the scan the Earth was the focal point for the Universes? IF so what does the focal point mean. Cause if what you're saying is true and the planets were just moving relative to the Universes they inhabited then once Hyperion stopped the planets from touching then shouldn't the Universes kept going and the planets would have just stopped relative to where they were in their respective Universes?

Cause if they were just free floating aspects not being moved while the Universes were moving then that means no force was being applied to them besides the normal gravitational forces it normally exists under.

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I was gonna write this but then I dropped my phone

Originally posted by Philosophía
Don't tell me you think the force it hits you with is greater than that of a 5 ton block coming at you 30 km/h.

Please, don't. Even if you believe it.

Just don't.

But..

If it comes at 1km/s, then that means there's absolutely no acceleration.

F = mass of the moon * 0 acceleration.
F = 0.

Physics!

Like I said, you don't know what force is.

Let's stop this. Seriously. We're getting away from the Hyperion part, which was what's relevant, and I'm pretty sure the evidence is inconclusive...

Hyperion withstood as much as the Earths can withstand, before they break.
Assuming normal Earths, that's an impressive amount, but inferior to Superman. By far.

Glad to see someone making sense ( and not murdering Physics). 😎

Originally posted by Newjak
why would that cause it to have an acceleration of zero?

Velocity is a measure of how fast an object is moving. In this case, the moon was moving at 1 km/s.

Acceleration is a measure of how fast an object is changing its velocity. The moon had a velocity of 1 km/s, thus its acceleration was 0.

To anticipate your question:
Even if the moon was moving at 1 km/s and also accelerating with 1 km every second, I still wouldn't explode, and the 5 ton block would still hurt me more.

This is my face as I type all of these:

I'm sorry for being an assh*le about it, but I hate it when people grasp at straws and don't know the subject.
I'll ask you this, at the end, though, with my last straw of hope:

Do you agree, by all common sense accounts and logical deductions, going by the comics, that Hyperion didn't stop two Universes, but only two Earths, and in doing so withstood as much as the Earths themselves could [which is easily calculable]? And that there's no reason to believe he stopped the mass of two Universes?

Do you also agree that to think otherwise, is to say that Earth can withstand the mass of the entire Universe, which is one of the most asinine things ever said on this forum?

If the answer to either of these is 'No', then I'm quite certain that at least 100 people will spontaneously burst into tears around the world, without knowing the reason.

That's also based in physics.

Unless the moon was always moving at said speed from its creation at some point it had to change its velocity correct?

Originally posted by Newjak
Unless the moon was always moving at said speed from its creation at some point it had to change its velocity correct?

Okay I will be direct. You are correct velocity matters. The moon will have an incredibly low acceleration if it goes from 0 to 1 over billions of years. But it will still be positive. Once again marvel universes are infinite thus we can say they habe infinite mass. So even if it's acceleration is as close to 0 as possible it will still give that universe infinite force. Unless you are saying that universe was always moving at that speed.

Enjoy your lunch

I'm simply amazed that you think an object's mass and acceleration [even if the object has infinite mass] dictate how much damage it does to you, even after I explained that the moon moving at 1km/h and accelerating at 1 km/h towards you, wouldn't do as much damage as a block of concrete coming at you 30 km/h, even though your misinterpreted F = m * a formula dictates otherwise.

You'd rather be ridiculously inaccurate to common sense and basic knowledge, than to admit you're wrong, and that's simply baffling.

It's not comic book laws that are wrong in this case, it's you.

Thank you.

You told me the moon would do less. You didn't explain anything other than the moon could have 0 acceleration given a certain time span which would give it 0 force. You can explain why the moon would do less damage since you haven't done it yet. Im still waiting for it.

Originally posted by Newjak
You told me the moon would do less. You didn't explain anything other than the moon could have 0 acceleration given a certain time span which would give it 0 force. You can explain why the moon would do less damage since you haven't done it yet. Im still waiting for it.

Question:
Do you even realize that the moon would do less damage, but just don't know why? I'm curios. Because if you don't realize it, I think I'm going to go e-depressed.

If I post your stance in this thread in a whole paragraph, it would be in the top 5 most absurd thing I've typed/read in my entire life - from infinitely fast moving, infinitely durable Earths with infinitely durable populations, to not even getting basic, fundamental laws of physics even remotely right -- this was just a mess.

It was one of those discussions where I'm asking myself what am I doing in this forum, since nobody seems to want to change their mind or learn something, but would rather stick to their pre-concieved conclusion and work their way up there through piles of crap.

So all I've heard from you so far is I know physics believe me and you're dumb.I given you plenty of chances to support what you're saying. And you're right I don't know what you've been trying to hint at. All I know is if the universe had acceleration then based on Marvel's statements about their universes it would have infinite force. Therefore if the universe was pushing earth is would have been doing so with infinite force.. It makes sense to me. Given comic history is it absurd ... not really but your only counter has been I'm right because I know more. Would you accept that as an answer?

Originally posted by Newjak
So all I've heard from you so far is I know physics believe me and you're dumb.I given you plenty of chances to support what you're saying. And you're right I don't know what you've been trying to hint at. All I know is if the universe had acceleration then based on Marvel's statements about their universes it would have infinite force. Therefore if the universe was pushing earth is would have been doing so with infinite force.. It makes sense to me. Given comic history is it absurd ... not really but your only counter has been I'm right because I know more. Would you accept that as an answer?

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And how the hell did people like Black Panther fought inside an incursion if the force was infinite as recently as in New Avengers 20?

Hyperion held and withstood planet crushing force with each arm. Thats it.

In other words, nothing compared to even pre Flashpoint Superman, who withstood contained solar system level gravity with one hand.

Newjak is confused with the idea that objects not in motion are not exerting force since force requires acceleration.

Superman haters are universally...challenged.

It is not without surprise that it is always well known superman fans that swarm together and as ever with ANY feat that is greater than superman, they lowball and agree with each other as if its a crime against KMC for ANY character to have a better feat than superman. Hyperion held those universes apart by using those planets as a grasping point, something solids and moving. Thoses universes were moving those planets thus making them the power sourse and hyperion for a time stopped the movement thereby stopping the power source for a time. If two military tanks with a big boulder tied to the front of them were going to ram each other and someone got between them and held the tanks apart for a short time until the boulders crumbled, he held those tanks back using those two big rocks to do it. Its not that people dont believe hyperions feat, its the fact that superman fans dont want any feat to be better than superman's so they.......... well ............. you see what they are doing here. 🙁

Lol.. This feat still being lowballed? Oh the butthurt...