Originally posted by juggerman
Bardock Father of Goku isn't even canon.
Do you think I care if its considered canon or not? 🙄 Some of the events are in fact canon my good bro. 🙂
And it in fact does not contradict the Manga.
Anyway, Akira helped with the story of EOB, so that doesn't mean its full canon, but it means that it's not N-canon either. 🙂
Unless Akira stated it wasn't canon, at least.
Originally posted by Kaldin
Do you think I care if its considered canon or not? 🙄 Some of the events are in fact canon my good bro. 🙂
Events like Frieza destroying Planet Vegeta and Bardock being present are canon. The rest is basically just filler unless otherwise stated. Don't get me wrong I love the story but it's still non canon
Originally posted by Kaldin
And it in fact [B]does not contradict the Manga.
That doesn't matter. Goku entering a tournament in Other World and meeting Pikkon doesn't contradict the Manga either. Still non canon.
Originally posted by Kaldin
Anyway, Akira helped with the story of EOB, so that doesn't mean its full canon, but it means that it's not N-canon either. 🙂
Unless Akira stated it wasn't canon, at least.
Again him helping=/=canon. See GT
Originally posted by juggerman
Events like Frieza destroying Planet Vegeta and Bardock being present are canon. The rest is basically just filler unless otherwise stated. Don't get me wrong I love the story but it's still non canonThat doesn't matter. Goku entering a tournament in Other World and meeting Pikkon doesn't contradict the Manga either. Still non canon.
Again him helping=/=canon. See GT
As I said before, he didn't help with GT's story, he just helped with a few ****ing drawings. Which is why it was awful.
I wasn't talking about BFOG being canon or not anyway (Was just saying it didn't contradict the Manga and stuff, ya know,) I was talking about EOB, which Akira did in fact help create the story of.
Originally posted by Kaldin
As I said before, he didn't help with GT's story, he just helped with a few ****ing drawings. Which is why it was awful.
Did he help? He did more than "just a few ****ing drawings" too.
Originally posted by Kaldin
I wasn't talking about BFOG being canon or not anyway (Was just saying it didn't contradict the Manga and stuff, ya know,) I was talking about EOB, which Akira did in fact help create the story of.
If EoB is canon, wouldn't BFoG need to be as well?
Originally posted by Kaldin
As I said before, he didn't help with GT's story, he just helped with a few ****ing drawings. Which is why it was awful.I wasn't talking about BFOG being canon or not anyway (Was just saying it didn't contradict the Manga and stuff, ya know,) I was talking about EOB, which Akira did in fact help create the story of.
What do you mean by bold?
Originally posted by juggerman
Did he help? He did more than "just a few ****ing drawings" too.If EoB is canon, wouldn't BFoG need to be as well?
Akira did, in fact not help with GT's story bro, which is why it was awful.
And yeah, he did help with EoB's story.
I'm not saying EoB is canon, just saying technically, its not non canon unless Akira says so, because he helped make the story.
It's like with Star Wars, the Manga is A canon, and EoB is.......E canon 😂
Best thing I've ever thought of in my life.
Originally posted by Kaldin
Akira did, in fact not help with GT's story bro, which is why it was awful.
Wasn't my question. He helped with more than just drawlings. Him just "helping" doesn't automatically mean it's canon.
Originally posted by Kaldin
And yeah, he did help with EoB's story.
I'm not saying EoB is canon, just saying technically, its not non canon unless Akira says so, because he helped make the story.
It's canon to BFoG which is a non canon feature. Unless BFoG is canon, which according to you it isn't since Akira had nthing to do with it and has not stated it to be, then it's sequel is equally non canon unless otherwise stated
Originally posted by juggerman
Wasn't my question. He helped with more than just drawlings. Him just "helping" doesn't automatically mean it's canon.It's canon to BFoG which is a non canon feature. Unless BFoG is canon, which according to you it isn't since Akira had nthing to do with it and has not stated it to be, then it's sequel is equally non canon unless otherwise stated
Originally posted by Kaldin
Obviously he accepts BFoG then, works both ways bro. Also, Akira did in fact help with the drawings for BFoG, but that was all.
It either makes both a form of canon or non canon, as I said works both ways.
What do you mean by the italics? 😕
I agree it works both ways. If BFoG is non canon then EoB is also non canon. Glad we agree here. Now there is nothing that says BFoG is canon since it was created by a source other than Akira and he never once said it was canon. So logic dictates that it is non canon until otherwise stated by the man himself. And if it is non canon then any and all sequels will have the same standing. Simple
You said all Toriyama did was help "with a few ****ing drawings" for GT. I'm saying he did more than that