So we've established that you have absolutely no actual evidence that the temple was destroyed or badly damaged and are simply jumping to conclusions like you always do.
So basically exactly what we all established last time we talked about this. This has all been a big waste of time. As I said, you've got nothing to contribute. This is over.
Ant never stated that the ships destroyed the temple, only that the ships did massive damage to the complex and that the bolts took out huge portions of it. This is backed up by the article/Theron's statement/clear evidence of those bolts raining down and blowing up the rock. You're grasping at straws trying to justify Bane destroying an entire temple with aid of a nexus, when its obvious that Revan had already done the hard work for him.
Pretty sure every non-Bane fanboy agrees with me on this one, bud. Your ignoring a cutscene and quotes and instead giving ridiculous counter-arguments.
At this stage, I question if even Emperordmb is agreeing with you on this one. And no, I never said the temple was destroyed. Instead I said canon says it was badly damaged.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Nothing indicating they weren't dead, just also nothing indicating they were instead of merely knocked out.
Why should they be knocke out? Even so, they are more durable than humans, and they are trained warriors. Dooku also instantly killed Kiffar warriors, and that's more than enough to prove he can at least kill fodder with Lightnig, not to mention that the fact that he could instantly incapacitate Sora Bulq while the latter had his Force Barriers active further helps my case.
Originally posted by Nephthys
From what I can tell we only see his feet after he cuts her in half, so we don't know if he was smoking or not. When she's actually hitting him with it theres too much light to actually see anything, although I can see some weird white blur around the lightning so maybe that was supposed to be smoke. But as I said, its a stylistic choice and doesn't mean anything.
This is an excuse, if Mighella's lightning had left Maul smoking it would have been shown. Stylistic choices have zero relevance, seeing how it was all shown in a comic, and Mighella's Lightning was simply not powerful enough to replicate Dooku's results.
Not only that but am I supposed to regard this as a "stylistic choice" and disregard the self-evident difference in power between Dooku and Mighella, and yet accept that the Nightbrothers were simply knocked out, in spite of the fact that Dooku can instantly incapacite powerful Force users, which is evidence to the contrary? Lol take this nonsense somewhere else.
Originally posted by Nephthys
More than enough for what? If you seriously thinking making Maul scream indicates Dooku can disintegrate people, then I think I'll just stop the discussion right here.
This is a strawman argument. Maul screaming is an additional detail. If it was just for that I wouldn't be arguing that Dooku is powerful enough to incinerate people.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Also you don't know that it was purposefully low level. Maybe Dooku's full power lightning is such utter dogshit that he can't kill even a defenseless Maul with it and making him scream is the best he can do?
Oh, but we do know that Dooku was using low intensity lightning, because it's self evident, since Dooku was interrogating and wouldn't risk to damage Maul too much. Unless you're somehow suggesting that Sidious told Dooku "Oh you can do all you want to him and have fun without holding back, because he won't die anyway" which is an insanely idiotic notion. In other words, you're grasping at straws.
Even if your point was correct, Maul remains vastly more durable than mercenaries, so failing to kill him wouldn't detract from my case, especially since Bane also hasn't killed anyone on Maul's level.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It's "not always". There's no if.
Except that actually Dooku only used Lightning against powerful force users. The only instance were he used lightning on fodder was against the nightsisters, and Ventress was with them, not to mention that Dooku was drugged.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, I really doubt Maul could defend himself with the Force, which is how most of a force users durability and capability to resist damage comes from. Maul being very durable doesn't mean much of anything. Dooku did nothing more than cause him pain, so who even cares? If anything I'd call this a low feat for Dooku. 😬
I already acknowledged that Maul's condition likely affected his Force shields, but that was hardly my point, and I doubt they were completely inactive anyways, since he was clearly facing Dooku.
Maul is incredibly durable, Force or not, because he is a physical powerhouse both by virtue of his training and by virtue of being a Zabrak. Maul is an exception in terms of durability and pain tolerance, and the fact that he is one of the most highly trained Sith in history only helps my case, especially considering how he was trained by Sidious to be a living weapon. Thus, my point still stands.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes. 😐
Scorching people to ash with FP lightning should be easier than leaving Maul smoking with low level Lightning.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Pretty sure every non-Bane fan agrees with me on this one, bud. Your ignoring a cutscene and quotes and instead giving ridiculous counter-arguments.
At this stage, I question if even Emperordmb is agreeing with you on this one. And no, I never said the temple was destroyed. Instead I said canon says it was badly damaged.
You mean anti-Bane trolls like carthage and Intrepid? Wow, some support there. I'm not ignoring anything. I've looked at every single piece of evidence you've given me and nothing indicates it was damaged. The only thing you have is phrases like "laid waste" and "bombarded", which is completely pathetic evidence. I'm being serious here. I'm not just trying to save face or back Bane. You really do have nothing. If you looked at all of this with an objective, critical eye you'd probably agree with me that nothing actually proves or strongly indicates the temple was damaged.
You said the temple was destroyed both when the flashpoint and the trailer came out. I'm just covering against you trying that again. Well, you're simply wrong there. Canon doesn't say that. A Wookieepedia article say that. Please learn the difference. 🙄
Originally posted by Nephthys
You mean anti-Bane trolls like carthage and Intrepid? Wow, some support there. I'm not ignoring anything. I've looked at every single piece of evidence you've given me and nothing indicates it was damaged. The only thing you have is phrases like "laid waste" and "bombarded", which is completely pathetic evidence. I'm being serious here. I'm not just trying to save face or back Bane. You really do have nothing. If you looked at all of this with an objective, critical eye you'd probably agree with me that nothing actually proves or strongly indicates the temple was damaged.You said the temple was destroyed both when the flashpoint and the trailer came out. I'm just covering against you trying that again. Well, you're simply wrong there. Canon doesn't say that. A Wookieepedia article say that. Please learn the difference. 🙄
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Pretty sure everynon-Bane fanboylogical being agrees with me on this one, bud. Your ignoring a cutscene and quotes and instead giving ridiculous counter-arguments.
At this stage, I question if even Emperordmb is agreeing with you on this one. And no, I never said the temple was destroyed. Instead I said canon says it was badly damaged.
How much of an 'objective' and 'critical' eye do you need to ascertain the fact that those blaster bolts would be destroying what they touch on the ground beneath? Those bolts had enough power to destroy the spire, and all of them raining down would obviously lay waste to the temple beneath. Why can't you just accept that Bane drawing on a nexus to destroy randomly strewn about piles of rubble isn't impressive?
Originally posted by Nargaroth
This is a strawman argument. Maul screaming is an additional detail. If it was just for that I wouldn't be arguing that Dooku is powerful enough to incinerate people.
Ohhhh....
So your argument is actually worse than I thought? That's not good. 🙁
Well, good luck with that I guess.
lol Neph just raged out of chat. Come on bae love me:
[17:42:09] Nephthys joined the chat on Wed 29 Oct 2014 - 17:42
[17:42:15] @ DarthAnt66 : Mmm
[17:42:26] @ DarthAnt66 : I was deciding if I should clear chat or not.
[17:42:31] Tempest : he was a sock, i believe.
[17:42:38] @ DarthAnt66 : I anticipated Nephthys arrival.
[17:42:42] Tempest : herro neph
[17:43:03] Nephthys : hey
[17:43:05] Nephthys : bye
[17:43:06] Tempest : fyi, all i said was "wow, he's peeved" and that's it.
[17:43:11] @ DarthAnt66 : Sad bae
[17:43:16] @ DarthAnt66 : lol
[17:43:17] Tempest : all is well.
[17:43:29] @ DarthAnt66 : You cant seriously be mad.
[17:43:40] @ DarthAnt66 : Buttercup says you should love me.
[17:44:09] * DarthAnt66 extends hand to Nephthys as a sign of friendship
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
lol Neph just raged out of chat. Come on bae love me:[17:42:09] Nephthys joined the chat on Wed 29 Oct 2014 - 17:42
[17:42:15] @ DarthAnt66 : Mmm
[17:42:26] @ DarthAnt66 : I was deciding if I should clear chat or not.
[17:42:31] Tempest : he was a sock, i believe.
[17:42:38] @ DarthAnt66 : I anticipated Nephthys arrival.
[17:42:42] Tempest : herro neph
[17:43:03] Nephthys : hey
[17:43:05] Nephthys : bye
[17:43:06] Tempest : fyi, all i said was "wow, he's peeved" and that's it.
[17:43:11] @ DarthAnt66 : Sad bae
[17:43:16] @ DarthAnt66 : lol
[17:43:17] Tempest : all is well.
[17:43:29] @ DarthAnt66 : You cant seriously be mad.
[17:43:40] @ DarthAnt66 : Buttercup says you should love me.
[17:44:09] * DarthAnt66 extends hand to Nephthys as a sign of friendship
I didn't rage?
You said Temp was laughing at me so I just went to check if that were. And like it says, all he said was that I was peeved. So I guess I win.