Darth Sidious vs Darth Bane

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AncientPower The Chosen One

Bane's literal plot armor is the only reason he isn't stomped here.

God I don't seem to make many pro-Bane arguments do I? ironic.

Arhael Devoid of reality

Originally posted by Stigma
It's entirely possible that Sidious grew stonger between TPM and RotS, if only because time he might have dedicated to futher study and refinement of his force-powers. How significant was this increase? Definitely much less than his implied power jump from RotS to RotJ.

I am very skeptical about significant and even marginal powerups. Especially considering that Luke after defeating Lumiya had decades of experience and she was a challenging opponent for him.

Was there anywhere implication that Sidious actually got more powerful between RotS and RotJ by any margin?

Stigma Herald of the Judgement

Oh, obviously, I was speculating.
On the other hand, Palpatine did collect and presumably study force knowledge from a "miriad of worlds" during his time as the emperor to the point it was claimed he "knew every force technique and invented new ones at his leisure".

Stigma Herald of the Judgement

Originally posted by AncientPower
Bane's literal plot armor is the only reason he isn't stomped here.

God I don't seem to make many pro-Bane arguments do I? ironic.


Maybe because there are not a lot to be made? 😛

Revanchiste Senior Member

Sidious before he kill plagueis? Or just after???
One = fair the other = unfaire !

carthage PLEASE PROTECT ME STONES

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Source for Sidious being more powerful?

Anyway, being faster than Bane won't be enough. Raskta was faster, more skilled, and landed more blows than Bane, and she hardly touched him. Lightning is the only thing Sidious has going for him, and I don't think his TPM incarnation is powerful enough in that aspect.

Bane has no feats to compare to Sidious stomping Maul, deflecting fire from hundreds of battle droids, becoming more powerful than Plagueis after his death, fighting hundreds of Kursid warriors without being touched, and being inferior to Sidious in all manner. Sidious is immeasurably more powerful than either Raskta or Bane's nexus feats on Tython. Bane couldn't even do more than blast Zannah back in their duel. He gets destroyed and doesn't even touch Sidious.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

I can't help but fear Jack set his alarm clock to the exact second your ban was uplifted to see the carnage you would inflict.

Revanchiste Senior Member

Sidious.... That's seem logical to me....
Why.. Eeer Just.. Rhô f*** it...
Ha I have already post on this topic... XD.. I'm so blind !!!

Vorpal Ruin Jedi Master

Sidious should win handily.

Arhael Devoid of reality

Originally posted by Stigma
Oh, obviously, I was speculating.
On the other hand, Palpatine did collect and presumably study force knowledge from a "miriad of worlds" during his time as the emperor to the point it was claimed he "knew every force technique and invented new ones at his leisure".

True but that hardly matters because in combat he used nothing but TK and lightning in DE.

Bottom line assuming that DE Sidious is even more competent combatant than he was in RotS makes it way too cool for Luke defeating him.

I think you will agree that Luke improved a lot post DE. Yet, there are still plenty of opponents that can put up a good fight against him. People tend to come up with all sorts of excuses to lowball Luke's DE feat or assume that he did not perform his best against other opponents like in case with Lumiya. It makes more sense that Luke didn't improve much post DE. He definitely became more versatile in combat, he definitely learned new Force techniques - but that's all just marginal improvements, which in most circumstances hardly matter.