Originally posted by Stigma
Is your headache more or less correllated to how little you contribute to the thread?
lol mostly caused by the lack of sleep. 😛
Still, none taken. It was so much Revan wank that the fact I was able to write a few lines after reading it speaks volumes.Spoiler:😛
I'm joking in both instances, for those who are too easily upset
No offense taken, i assumed it was a joke 😄
6 votes for starkiller..
The guy who vote for STarkillers are this kind of guy...
"@burnface said:
There are loads of horrible debaters on that site, there is no comparison. You should show up to KMC just to humiliate the TOR fanboys. There are people there that think Vitiate prepped could stomp ROTS Sidious due to a perceived lack of force feats, that Orbalisk Bane could take TCW Maul and Count Dooku at the same time, and that Malgus could beat Maul and Savage at the same time. They consider Comicvine debaters to have PT bias lol
The TOR fans are like that because some of the EU fans used to completely shut down TOR and pre-Empire era characters (not to mention the TOR fanboys themselves). I can remember days where people thought f****ing Plo Koon would stomp Revan.
So yeah, some of the hardcore TOR fans wank on people like Vitiate, Revan, Meetra, etc., as do some of the EU-only fans with Vader, Maul, Dooku, etc. That's just the thing though. Every fanbase has a minority of fans where they tend to overrate their favorite characters.
You probably do the same thing yourself, so don't make TOR fans look like a bunch of idiots just for overly-supporting their characters."
Because TFU fanboys don't?
Because trying to humilate TOR fan boys while thinking Revan is only this limited pseudo shepard from KotOR1 is not a mistaken view????
Because YOU DON'T WANT TO ADMIT REVAN IS MORE POWER THAN YOU THINK !!!!
Originally posted by Revanchiste
6 votes for starkiller..
The guy who vote for STarkillers are this kind of guy..."@burnface said:
There are loads of horrible debaters on that site, there is no comparison. You should show up to KMC just to humiliate the TOR fanboys. There are people there that think Vitiate prepped could stomp ROTS Sidious due to a perceived lack of force feats, that Orbalisk Bane could take TCW Maul and Count Dooku at the same time, and that Malgus could beat Maul and Savage at the same time. They consider Comicvine debaters to have PT bias lol
The TOR fans are like that because some of the EU fans used to completely shut down TOR and pre-Empire era characters (not to mention the TOR fanboys themselves). I can remember days where people thought f****ing Plo Koon would stomp Revan.
So yeah, some of the hardcore TOR fans wank on people like Vitiate, Revan, Meetra, etc., as do some of the EU-only fans with Vader, Maul, Dooku, etc. That's just the thing though. Every fanbase has a minority of fans where they tend to overrate their favorite characters.
You probably do the same thing yourself, so don't make TOR fans look like a bunch of idiots just for overly-supporting their characters."
Because TFU fanboys don't?
Because trying to humilate TOR fan boys while thinking Revan is only this limited pseudo shepard from KotOR1 is not a mistaken view????
Because YOU DON'T WANT TO ADMIT REVAN IS MORE POWER THAN YOU THINK !!!!
I personally don't see that much TOR fanwank here (but hey, I might be blind 😛 ). There is probably much worse in other forums. KMC seems pretty... balanced to me in this regard.
Yhea but he have technical edge... One named ligthning to defeat vader !!!
Revan have lightning storm !!!
Revan have moove more massiv objects with more ease than starkiller have...
Starkiller never fought the empeor technichaly, because the empeor want him as apprentice not dead...
It so ironic.. Isn't it? Vitiate want Revan dead but at the end he capture him, sidious want Starkiller alive, and finaly kill him....
Everyone say hey Revan featless.. Revan just slayn Nyriss with ease, a Darkcouncil memeber, the most powerfull fore user of their time (until vitiate decide to absorb their power..)
Vitiate is less powerfull than sidious.. If he not use he's "additional power" but he will always use it...
Vitiate thank to Naga sadow the power stolen to the galaxy (thank to the war, and the darksouncil...) is 10 time powerfull than sidious IS !!!!!
Hmhmhm... Revan fought Vitiate..... Nearly assinate him at the begining of the fight !!
Revan have cast a kaméaméa of pur eforce energy !!! (Does Starkiller able to do this in super power mode?)
Revan cappable of auto increase his power (O.P)
Where starkiller have a great feat Revan does better at each time !!! But People don't know really who Revan is so....
Originally posted by Nargaroth
I personally don't see that much TOR fanwank here (but hey, I might be blind 😛 ). There is probably much worse in other forums. KMC seems pretty... balanced to me in this regard.
If the feats were switched and Revan had Starkiller feats and Starkiller had Revan's, then it'd be a stomp in Revan's favor.
You don't see that being claimed here because majority of the PT fans are far more generous and reasonable than the TOR fans.
TBH, the only thing Revan has on Starkiller is hype, which has no connection to Starkiller whatsoever. I've not read the second book, only the first one, so Idk how good the second Starkiller is with a blade. I do know, however, that Starkiller in the second novel is a more powerful version, and TBH, Revan would go down to the original Marek harder than Vader did, due to the power gap, and is good enough in sabers to not go down to Revan easily, if at all, in that area.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
If the feats were switched and Revan had Starkiller feats and Starkiller had Revan's, then it'd be a stomp in Revan's favor.You don't see that being claimed here because majority of the PT fans are far more generous and reasonable than the TOR fans.
TBH, the only thing Revan has on Starkiller is hype, which has no connection to Starkiller whatsoever. I've not read the second book, only the first one, so Idk how good the second Starkiller is with a blade. I do know, however, that Starkiller in the second novel is a more powerful version, and TBH, Revan would go down to the original Marek harder than Vader did, due to the power gap, and is good enough in sabers to not go down to Revan easily, if at all, in that area.
So far I've seen more or less the same amount of wank on both sides, but as I said, my impression might be wrong.
Regardless, TFU 2 Starkiller disintegrated half of a 300m frigate while simultaneously sustaining his Force shield. See this for more details: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/zapan87/blog/starkiller-clone-respect-thread/99783/. He would still probably lose to Revan due to the latter being a better duellist and Starkiller not using his powers (he didn't attempt to TK Vader, so he likely won't against Revan).
Vader losing at Galen like that is honestly stupid , not so much for the duel (Vader was stated to have underestimated Galen) but for the fact that Marek ragdolled him, which is an inconsistency.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
Vader losing at Galen like that is honestly stupid , not so much for the duel (Vader was stated to have underestimated Galen) but for the fact that Marek ragdolled him, which is an inconsistency.
Wasn't that Vader before his prime though? I was under the impression that TFU 2 Vader was more powerful or something like that.
Edit: Happy Halloween btw 😛
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Wasn't that Vader before his prime though? I was under the impression that TFU 2 Vader was more powerful or something like that.
Vader was far from his prime in skill, but he was never stated to have become much more powerful after that point, and most, if not all his best feats were done up to and even many years before ANH.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
So far I've seen more or less the same amount of wank on both sides, but as I said, my impression might be wrong.Regardless, TFU 2 Starkiller disintegrated half of a 300m frigate while simultaneously sustaining his Force shield. See this for more details: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/zapan87/blog/starkiller-clone-respect-thread/99783/. He would still probably lose to Revan due to the latter being a better duellist and Starkiller not using his powers (he didn't attempt to TK Vader, so he likely won't against Revan).
Vader losing at Galen like that is honestly stupid , not so much for the duel (Vader was stated to have underestimated Galen) but for the fact that Marek ragdolled him, which is an inconsistency.
There's wank on both sides, but it's far worse on the TOR side, except for a few TOR fans here. They'll even ignore established canon, which confirms that a DS nexus enhances a dark sider's power.
What saber feats of Revan's makes you believe he'd take a majority here? Why do you believe Revan to be a superior saber duelist to Starkiller at all? As I said, I don't know about Starkiller's saber skills in the second novel, but in the first novel, he held his own against Vader, who I'd say is more skilled than Revan, and I don't recall Vader holding back then, especially in front of his master. Furthermore, Marek usually ends up using his powers when he is being overwhelmed in sabers.
Vader has ragdolled Starkiller as well in some of the cutscenes. They both seemed to be depicted as near equals, and Vader's raw power and command over his raw power rivals that of Vitiate's. You even said Vader may have killed a group of jedi with just a force push.
"Originally posted by Nargaroth
So far I've seen more or less the same amount of wank on both sides, but as I said, my impression might be wrong."
There is over fan of Revan one side and over fan of starkiller on the other side that's perfectly normal.. Taht's not my first Revan V.S starkiller thread...
"Why's my son mad?"
I will take each feat of starkiller and present a feat of Revan in the same kind superior to GM or SK feat !
"Starkiller moves his blade so fast that it is visible only as a blur:
Finally, Starkiller saw an opportunity. They were exchanging rapid blows along the edge of the buckled platform, blades swinging so fast they were visible only as blurs. "
Revan too so equality.
STamina... Revan survied 300 year in stase, being torture wih drogs and st..
No let's quote. Hey DarthAnt66, Can I? O.K
"Pain Resistance
Revan is capable of withstanding lightning that is infinitely more powerful then that which can burn people to flesh without being killed or knocked unconscious.
"A dozen bolts of purple lightning arched from the Emperor toward Revan...the Emperor was infinitely more powerful then Darth Nyriss had ever been. Revan's body was engulfed in agony as the electricity coursed through his body. His skin began to boil and blister, the flesh of his face melting and sticking tot he superheated metal of his mask as the Emperor poured more and more into him. The Jedi collapsed to the ground, burned but still alive, the hilt of his extinguished lightsaber lying on the floor less than a meter beyond his grasp. Almost too week to move, Revan managed to raise his head just in time to see the Emperor turn on the brave little astromech."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
Revan withstands an explosion in extreme close proximity with only little injury.
Revan is able to withstand numerous bolts of lightning, and then go on to be able to duel and defeat a exiled Sith Headmaster despite his injuries.
Revan's pain threshold is greater then any other Jorak Uln has tortured.
"Now...this is odd. The test is over and you're both still alive. Well that's never happened before."
―Jorak Uln (Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic)
Revan is able to withstand incredible pain in his torture sessions.
"Even drugged to the edge of unconsciousness, he was able to draw on it to help him endure the pain and the relentless barrage of questions."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
Drug Resistance
"The Jedi's command of and connection to the Force was unlike anything Scourge had sensed in anyone else. Even though Revan was constantly drugged, it was impossible not to sense his strength."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
"He struggled to his feet, battling the mind-numbing effects of chemicals coursing through his veins. Had his mind been able to focus, he could have purged them from his system."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
"Interrogating the Jedi had resulted in nothing but frustration and dead ends.His will was strong, as was his command of the Force. Even drugged to the edge of unconsciousness he was able to draw on it to help him endure the pain and the relentless barrage of questions."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
"Revan had shown him how to use the Force to ward off poison and disease. No simple toxin should be able to affect anyone strong enough in the dark side to be a Lord of the Sith."
―Darth Bane (Darth Bane: Path of Destruction)
Telepathic Resistance
"Each [Revan and the Foundry] could dominate worlds...The Emperor sought to pry the Foundry's location from the Jedi's mind. But for centuries he resisted."
―Darth Malgus (Star Wars The Old Republic)
"Finally, the Emperor permitted the war to end in a truce-his ruthless tactics unknowingly calmed by his mental like with the Jedi Master Revan, a legendary Republic hero..."
―Star Wars The Old Republic Encyclopedia
"Even the combined power of the Jedi Council couldn't keep your true identity buried forever, could it?"
―Darth Malak (Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic)
"The answers [of the information about the Jedi] were all there, but Revan would not surrender them easily. Though he was physically helpless, mentally he was strong enough to wage war agains the Emperor, guarding his secrets for however long it might take.
And Revan knew something the Emperor did not. The connection between them went both ways. There were brief moments-times when the Emperor was intently focused on something else-when he could subvert their relationship of planting seeds [of the fear of death and loss of power] in the Emperor's thoughts."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
"For the next three hundred years, the Emperor probed the Jedi’s mind, learning of the existence of a powerful space station. But the Jedi was powerful, and resisted the Emperor’s repeated attempts to learn its location. After three centuries, the Jedi escapes from his stasis."
―Star Wars The Old Republic Official Website
"The reason for this soon becomes clear as Revan is almost devoured by primal Sith forces on the world's surface. Revan's will allows him to feed on (and not be consumed by) the power of the dark side."
―Chronicles of the Old Republic
"The Emperor had three hundred years to break this man...and he never succumbed?"
―Dark Side Playable Character (Star Wars The Old Republic)"
On many topic (including Exaar kuun V.S Revan) on argument for Revan was his insane stamina...
Force Lightning
Revan is cappble of summone lightnings storms !
"Telekinesis
With no apparent strain, Starkiller rips a communications tower from a Kaminoan facility, using it to knock three AT-STs into the ocean and crush stormtroopers:"
Revan doe the same, and peharps with more ease....
Telekinesis in Revan is so.... Natural.. An extention of his arm !!
Force Barrier
Starkiller conjures a Force shield that repels missiles:
Starki take time to repls the missiles Revan doe it with more ease...
Telepathy/Force Sense
Eeeeer does I have to say anything?
Eeeeer That's all???? Nothing more on starkiller?