Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
There's wank on both sides, but it's far worse on the TOR side, except for a few TOR fans here. They'll even ignore established canon, which confirms that a DS nexus enhances a dark sider's power.What saber feats of Revan's makes you believe he'd take a majority here? Why do you believe Revan to be a superior saber duelist to Starkiller at all? As I said, I don't know about Starkiller's saber skills in the second novel, but in the first novel, he held his own against Vader, who I'd say is more skilled than Revan, and I don't recall Vader holding back then, especially in front of his master. Furthermore, Marek usually ends up using his powers when he is being overwhelmed in sabers.
Vader has ragdolled Starkiller as well in some of the cutscenes. They both seemed to be depicted as near equals, and Vader's raw power and command over his raw power rivals that of Vitiate's. You even said Vader may have killed a group of jedi with just a force push.
Uhm, that might be a reaction to some people lowballing certain characters using Nexus argument rather than a default bias, though. Not that this should be justified anyway.
As for Revan's feats, I'll mention a few off the top of my head:
1. Stomping Imperial guards, who were amped by Vitiate, in a dark side nexus;
2. Defeating Darth Malak, one of the best duellists of his time.
3. Presumably defeating two Terentateks on Korriban (another dark side Nexus), though I'm not sure about this one, since I still have to check source material;
4. Defeating Mandalore The Ultimate, who was good enough to one-shot Malak as a Jedi.
This should be enough. These feats are certainly more impressive than duelling evenly and nearly losing to a pre-ANH Vader who was clearly holding back. Wether Revan is a better, equal or inferior duellist to ANH Vader is probably debatable, though ROTJ Vader is certainly better. Vader was trying to kill Galen, but the point is that he fought like an idiot and underestimated his apprentice, which along with other things, resulted in his defeat.
Vader only gripped the Starkiller clone, which is another inconsistent showing. Galen ragdolling him is also inconsistent because Vader briefly chocked him before that, which indicates very comparable power. As for the Jedi, we don't know if Vader killed them or not, and his raw power doesn't rival that of a prepped Vitiate anyways.
Yhea if you defeat Mandalore the utimate then Vitiate gard should cause you no problem, no troubl anything like that !!!
Revan Have also deafeat a certain beast on Malachor V :
http://www.starwars-holonet.com/encyclopedie/creature-storm-beast.html
An other feat.. Humhum... Revan not kill those but the big one !!!
Unfortunaltly for Revan he is underestimate only by somes SW fans.... Not by his foes who take him some time too seriously (even if he is really dangerous..)
Yhea :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAyHXJtklHM
It's a bit linked to Vitiate what's a bit linked to revan... Somehow...