Knee jerk reaction

Originally posted by riv6672
If you were to get up in the morning, and the first source of media you accessed was reporting nothing but:

A. The return of Jesus Christ
B. Aliens landing on earth.

Which would you find more unbelievable?

Looking for what you believe you would think/feel right off the bat, in the initial moment of getting the information, before you started getting any other details other than this news is actually being reported by main stream media.

I'd find aliens landing on Earth more unbelievable.

REPORTS of Jesus Christ returning would be quite believable.

However, if the Bible is accurate, this would be only a false Christ deluding people:

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24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024&version=KJV

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
REPORTS of Jesus Christ returning would be quite believable.

However, if the Bible is accurate, this would be only a false Christ deluding people:

This is actually an interesting take, though it tickles me to think that many devout theists would also be skeptical of such reports, just for wildly different reasons.

For the sake of the argument, though, this guy would need to do SOMETHING fairly profound for mainstream media sources to be saying Christ had returned. The press can be dumb, but they'd also be trying to "uncover" the story to debunk it. So within a theistic worldview, your reaction is completely valid.

This is really intetesting to me. The reasoning and such.
👆

Originally posted by Digi
This is actually an interesting take, though it tickles me to think that many devout theists would also be skeptical of such reports, just for wildly different reasons.

Nevermind that the idiot who made that did not use the exact scene that Vader said this in...please....please...

Originally posted by MF DELPH
That was his initial coming and life in the Middle East. His return, on the otherhand, is supposed to be spicy details of The Book of Revelations, as in him being ushered in with Earth rattling trumpet blasts and the throne and host of heaven descending on Earth (depending on your denomination's interpretation).

If it was Jesus, my knee jerk reaction would be to burn my porn stash.

Originally posted by red g jacks
what if it was a video of that shit happening on cnn?

That said i can easily see people, after maybe as little as a day, calling BS.

Originally posted by Digi
This is actually an interesting take, though it tickles me to think that many devout theists would also be skeptical of such reports, just for wildly different reasons.

Yeah, it'd be a sh_tstorm. I guess knostics would be like "cool, now I believe in that god. Pass me the ketchup".

Originally posted by red g jacks
what if it was a video of that shit happening on cnn?

I'd still be skeptical because I've seen films like Legend of Zu Mountain and know what CGI is capable of. Given the magnitude of Armageddon commencing it wouldn't require television for verification if it were an actual event. You'd hear and feel the 'trumpet blasts' and likely see angels descending to Earth, and there'd be massive earthquakes and Satan and Co going to battle, and the giant 7 headed/10 horned red Dragon appearing out of 'heaven' (assuming your denomination takes this to be a literal cosmic battle with a literal giant red dragon and not an allegory/metaphor), and also the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse (again, depending on your denomination's interpretation, either literal horsemen [non-Ric Flair] or a metaphor). It's allegedly a global supernatural calamity per various interpretations. People in places on Earth without access to television would be aware that Armageddon was underway. Giant Dragons, Angels, Demons, Satan, Jesus, the 4 Horsemen, etc., battling all over Earth. IMO an event of that magnitude isn't going to take place via satellite. You'd see it out your window.

^Like i said....😂

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
If it was Jesus, my knee jerk reaction would be to burn my porn stash.

heh, Pornstache:

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I'd still be skeptical because I've seen films like Legend of Zu Mountain and know what CGI is capable of. Given the magnitude of Armageddon commencing it wouldn't require television for verification if it were an actual event. You'd hear and feel the 'trumpet blasts' and likely see angels descending to Earth, and there'd be massive earthquakes and Satan and Co going to battle, and the giant 7 headed/10 horned red Dragon appearing out of 'heaven' (assuming your denomination takes this to be a literal cosmic battle with a literal giant red dragon and not an allegory/metaphor), and also the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse (again, depending on your denomination's interpretation, either literal horsemen [non-Ric Flair] or a metaphor). It's allegedly a global supernatural calamity per various interpretations. People in places on Earth without access to television would be aware that Armageddon was underway. Giant Dragons, Angels, Demons, Satan, Jesus, the 4 Horsemen, etc., battling all over Earth. IMO an event of that magnitude isn't going to take place via satellite. You'd see it out your window.

Originally posted by riv6672
If you were to get up in the morning, and the first source of media you accessed was reporting nothing but:

A. The return of Jesus Christ
B. Aliens landing on earth.

Which would you find more unbelievable?

Looking for what you believe you would think/feel right off the bat, in the initial moment of getting the information, before you started getting any other details other than this news is actually being reported by main stream media.

When Christ returns everybody on the entire planet will be aware that he has. You won't have to turn on the tv. There will be a loud shout from Heaven and every knee (even the ones of the atheistic unbelievers who were so certain that God was nothing but part of a fairy tale, LOL) will kneel. I just wish that I could see the look on all the faces of all the unbelievers when it happens. It'd be priceless. 🙂

Originally posted by Star428
When Christ returns everybody on the entire planet will be aware that he has. You won't have to turn on the tv. There will be a loud shout from Heaven and every knee (even the ones of the atheistic unbelievers who were so certain that God was nothing but part of a fairy tale, LOL) will kneel. I just wish that I could see the look on all the faces of all the unbelievers when it happens. It'd be priceless. 🙂

Yes, this is what is supposed to happen. His second coming will be heard, all at once, all over the globe.

Various scriptural sources:

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:"

"And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."

"They that are wise and have received the truth, and have taken the Holy Spirit for their guide, and have not been deceived—verily I say unto you, they shall not be hewn down and cast into the fire, but shall abide the day.

And the earth shall be given unto them for an inheritance; and they shall multiply and wax strong, and their children shall grow up without sin unto salvation.

For the Lord shall be in their midst, and his glory shall be upon them, and he will be their king and their lawgiver”

"And this shall be the sound of his trump, saying to all people, both in heaven and in earth, and that are under the earth—for every ear shall hear it, and every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess, while they hear the sound of the trump, saying: Fear God, and give glory to him who sitteth upon the throne, forever and ever; for the hour of his judgment is come"

Maaaaaan, if even some of this stuff is true, that's scary as shit. I'm positive I'm not one of the "good ones." Sometimes, the atheistic arguments against the existence of the Christian God do not comfort me enough.

not worried in the slightest.

Originally posted by red g jacks
not worried in the slightest.

You would not be worried during the Apocalypse? You must be made of justice 😮

i would be worried if it happened. i am not worried about it actually happening.

Originally posted by red g jacks
i understand your perspective, but i am still a bit curious what you would think if every mainstream network was showing video footage of that kind of stuff happening? let's say that internet sources were on it as well, like al jazeera and whatnot. granted they aren't exactly above bullshitting but that would be a massive type of conspiracy for them all to be cooperating together to fabricate the same non-existent event... and to what end? it sounds a bit like orson welles war of the worlds on steroids.

As a US citizen I wouldn't put any level of counter intelligence/false flag operation past certain elements of our government. Even if that meant co-opting the media feeds inside our borders to convince us of something that wasn't actually occurring. If Iran Contra/War on Drugs and Project Ajax can go down, much more can as well.

I'm just highly skeptical.

but i'm talking about the press world wide including internet sources... not just the press based in america.

Doesnt matter, red g jacks. Some people would rather doubt everything than believe in anything.