Pound For Pound - Herald Class

Started by Newjak11 pages

Superman, Surfer, Thor. Assign 1, 2, 3 respectively to each and then use a random number generator to pick a a number from the range of 1 - 3.

Whatever number you get will not be wrong to answer this question.

Or to put it shortly pick anyone of those three and you would be correct as each one is about the same to me in overall power.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Wow I'm #1, so which clan does #1 correspond to?

The House of El is #1 😱

Shots fired!

Originally posted by abhilegend
For someone with so many powers surfer gets beat down a lot. You wouldn't see B&T happening to superman for example.

😛

Abhi stop acting like superman doesn't get KO'd or tossed around like a weak feeb... I've listed numerous times superman has been chumped and it's more than Surfer. If you wanted to play the low showings game... Superman would come out worse.

The "Pound for Pound" stipulation is what makes me question some of you. P4P usually refers to how much you can accomplish relative to how much you have. The people listing Surfer as "omg a billion powers for everything" are essentially stating why Surfer isn't the pound for pound king.

Superman does crazy stuff with less than half the powers of Surfer or Thor. He should rank a little higher than them in a list like this. Wonder Woman is a good suggestion too.

Does the mystically infinite weight of Mjolnir count towards Thor's pound count for the purposes of the OP? If that's the case, he's need to be abstract level to compete.

But seriously, I think great cases can be made for any of the "Big 3" of the HH tier. They all have unquantifiable feats and top-end wins against other HHs as well as beyond.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Surfer, Thor and Superman are the top dogs, and it's hard to choose between them imo. They all have strengths and weakness that balance them out against the other two, so not sure. You can make an argument for any of the three beating either of the two others.

I feel like this says it all.

Surfer's struggled a bit the last years due to waning popularity, but I'd still place the lot of on roughly the same level.

Superman often avoids embarassing losses due to DC policy, so he has that going for him. Which should make up for his lack of esoteric powers.

Thor is easily capable of taking that title.

Originally posted by "Id"
Superman and Surfer tend to hold back in leu of their pacifist nature.

Are you implying that Thor doesn't hold back? 😛

Because it's been stated so many times that he always holds back.

I would say Silver Surfer and Thor have become the epitome of medium herald, while Superman post of DCNU has become the epitome of high end herald.

The epitome of mid herald?

They, along with Superman, define high herald.

Originally posted by krisblaze
The epitome of mid herald?

They, along with Superman, define high herald.

Surfer and Thor use to be among high herald, over the past two years Marvel made it very clear that they are becoming the measuring stick of Mid Herald. Those two characters are used most prominently to demonstrate a high herald and or introduce a high herald by losing to them, or looking weak in front of them by being unable to win. However, they often save others who are lower then them (low heralds).

Superman has lost his magic weakness, gained an extremely high degree of combat skill, speed, and power. Point is Surfer and Thor have been weakened by Marvel, Superman has been buffed.

Superman has his magic weakness, has lost his combat skill and is even weaker to telepathy 😐

Thor was doing great with the exception of 1 bad year where he appeared in a lot of comics written by Bendis.

Surfer's lack of appearances is not the same as being weakened.

That year was 2012 and late 2011. It was so...dark.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That year was 2012 and late 2011. It was so...dark.

More PAIN!

MORE POWER!!!

Originally posted by krisblaze
Superman has his magic weakness, has lost his combat skill and is even weaker to telepathy 😐

Thor was doing great with the exception of 1 bad year where he appeared in a lot of comics written by Bendis.

Surfer's lack of appearances is not the same as being weakened.

His magic weakness was removed via Zantanna teaching him magic.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]More PAIN!

MORE POWER!!! [/B]

You forget yourself LoB. I'm no longer in that shadow!

Now back from whence you came vermin!

Originally posted by Board Walker
His magic weakness was removed via Zantanna teaching him magic.

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Originally posted by Board Walker
His magic weakness was removed via Zantanna teaching him magic.

Not in DCNU...

Originally posted by krisblaze
I feel like this says it all.

Surfer's struggled a bit the last years due to waning popularity, but I'd still place the lot of on roughly the same level.

Superman often avoids embarassing losses due to DC policy, so he has that going for him. Which should make up for his lack of esoteric powers.

Popularity doesn't have anything to do with it. The Surfer may not be as popular but he's gotten more powerful than anything, really. Supes may be the most formidable but Surfer is the most powerful.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Popularity doesn't have anything to do with it. The Surfer may not be as popular but he's gotten more powerful than anything, really. Supes may be the most formidable but Surfer is the most powerful.

Surfer hasn't gotten more powerful.

He had a brief moment in 2004-5, which is almost 10 years ago.