Best Debater by Era [Friendly Competition]

Started by Nephthys12 pages

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Well, I'm replying to your above post to Selenial, so we will just have to see.

Uh, yes we did. Final was like 11 votes to 7 votes IIRC.

Lol, seriously? You're such a douche. 🙄

No, I mean Jaina didn't win. Besides, not everyone who voted posted in the thread.

Originally posted by Nephthys
- That isn't an opinion, thats a fact. I take things in that case as they were presented and don't try to formulate excuses for why she was less impressive in the book. If you'll recall, I have my own theory to excuse her loss of power. Unlike you though, I don't act as if it's true. I also don't think the portrayal should be paid attention to because Drew didn't research the character or give a shit about her. But boo hoo, I don't get to make that call.

- Please, you're way more biased than I am. You've openly admitted you're a huge Traya/Exile fangirl. I don't even like Zannah and the Hero of Tython doesn't have a personality to like. I just think they're better than you do. I have a different opinion than you, get over it. And I'm not that hot, you don't need to say it twice.
Thanks, you're so helpful. 😍

Guh I said I wouldn't reply.

You do portray it as fact however, when you say "There's no hints of that in the text, you're wrong and I'm right" (paraphrasing btw) I never say it shouldn't be payed attention to, I just laugh at people who say he's a good Author and use that as an example.

And yes, I have said I'm a Traya/Exile fangirl. Multiple times. Unlike you I'm happy to admit it.

I however don't put Traya on Sidious level (Vitiate) Surik on Windu level sabers and Yoda level force (HOT) or use Sever force as an insta win in any debate (Zannah Sorcery vs Revan)

You shouldn't have been so mean to her, that's not like you.

Except... she did... she got more votes. 😐

I am observing a cloud of tension surrounding this thread.

Originally posted by Selenial
I however don't put Traya on Sidious level (Vitiate) Surik on Windu level sabers and Yoda level force (HOT) or use Sever force as an insta win in any debate (Zannah Sorcery vs Revan)

That's probably because Traya is far weaker than Vitiate, Surik is (IMO) quite a bit weaker than the HoT, and Meetra has never, to my knowledge, used sever force as an offensive weapon against an opponent.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol, seriously? You're such a douche. 🙄

No, I mean Jaina didn't win. Besides, not everyone who voted posted in the thread.

You failed to prove anything to the contrary, and couldnt disprove Vorpals and Ancientpowers examples of Jaina's willpower/her resistance feats to places strong in the darkside.

Originally posted by Selenial
Guh I said I wouldn't reply.

You do portray it as fact however, when you say "There's no hints of that in the text, you're wrong and I'm right" (paraphrasing btw) I never say it shouldn't be payed attention to, I just laugh at people who say he's a good Author and use that as an example.

And yes, I have said I'm a Traya/Exile fangirl. Multiple times. Unlike you I'm happy to admit it.

I however don't put Traya on Sidious level (Vitiate) Surik on Windu level sabers and Yoda level force (HOT) or use Sever force as an insta win in any debate (Zannah Sorcery vs Revan)

If theres no evidence of something, then it's not my opinion that your theory is wrong. It's just that your theory has no more merit than say, a theory that a Leprechaun stole her mojo. I don't have to establish a negative, so if your theory lacks anything indicating it's true, it's not on me that it's not true. And Drew being a shit author has nothing to do with this, like I said.

Vitiate being on Sidious level is hardly a stretch, and I don't buy into that due to personal bias. I was one of the hardline "Vitiate sux" crowd until I reevaluated his position after looking at the evidence. And I flat told you in this thread that I don't feel comfortable arguing the HoT on Yoda's level due to lack of evidence. And it's not anything to do with me that Zannah's sorcery is good and Revan is mentally unstable.

If by getting to me you mean that you said something about me that I thought was unfair, so I defended myself, you replied and then I replied back, baby you just broke my achy breaky heart.

Stop trying to act cool, the entire forum knows your mad and offended.
Socks were messing up the poll on both sides. But it doesn't matter. In the end it came down to who the OP felt had made the better argument, and that was me. It didn't help that you and others kept going on about Jaina resisting Abeloth, which was revealed to be false.

Nah, Jaina was winner in that. Me and Fated counted up the votes in the comments and Jaina won by a nice distance. Great job, Sel. 👆
- That isn't an opinion, thats a fact. I take things in that case as they were presented and don't try to formulate excuses for why she was less impressive in the book. If you'll recall, I have my own theory to excuse her loss of power. Unlike you though, I don't act as if it's true. I also don't think the portrayal should be paid attention to because Drew didn't research the character or give a shit about her. But boo hoo, I don't get to make that call.

Seeing you act like this to Selenial is rather appalling. Like, this is the behavior we would expect from me after S66 said Ventress slaughterhouses Revan.
Now, I call Selenial a bad debater and you call me a prick. Yet you do this and try to justify it by saying she started it? 🙄 [Insert personal insult here].
If so, I think quite a few people believe it.

A "few", yeah. Probably less then 20%. You got beat up pretty bad there. It reached a point of slaughterhousing where you wanted top start over.

You said that I join debates I know are slaughters to big up my favorite characters. But the truth is that I'm 100% confident in my assessment of the match-up and truly believe that Zannah is better. If you disagree, you're welcome to put your money where your mouth is. As is anyone (with the obvious exceptions) . I'm happy to defend my position.

You are happy to defend your position that you only join debates I know are slaughters to big up my favorite characters because you are 100% confident in that assessment? 👆
Please, you're way more biased than I am.

Selenial putting the Exile near Revan is infinitely more justifiable then putting Zannah above Caedus. Her bias is not even comparable to yours.
You've openly admitted you're a huge Traya/Exile fangirl.

So? People aren't allowed to have favorite characters now? 🙄
I don't even like Zannah and the Hero of Tython doesn't have a personality to like. I

No one asked about your feelings.
I just think they're better than you do.

And we just think they're worse than you do.
I have a different opinion than you, get over it.

Get over it? You are the one in rage here over Selenial's opinion. 😬
And I'm not that hot, you don't need to say it twice.

She said it twice just in-case you couldn't read it properly the first time. If she said it twice because you were that hot, she would have included a boob pic.
No I'm just talking smack cuz you talked smack at me

When you do it to a chic thought it's different... it's just you being a total *******. Are you sexist or something?
I can bust your chops without being mad.

Except your busting her chops... while being mad.
In the old days of KMC, typically half of someone's reply was taunts and put downs. It's not a big deal.

No one asked for the history lesson coming from the [insert personal insult here].

Originally posted by Nephthys
If theres no evidence of something, then it's not my opinion that your theory is wrong. It's just that your theory has no more merit than say, a theory that a Leprechaun stole her mojo. I don't have to establish a negative, so if your theory lacks anything indicating it's true, it's not on me that it's not true. And Drew being a shit author has nothing to do with this, like I said.

Vitiate being on Sidious level is hardly a stretch, and I don't buy into that due to personal bias. I was one of the hardline "Vitiate sux" crowd until I reevaluated his position after looking at the evidence. And I flat told you in this thread that I don't feel comfortable arguing the HoT on Yoda's level due to lack of evidence. And it's not anything to do with me that Zannah's sorcery is good and Revan is mentally unstable.

Except there is proof....

How are you not understanding this? 😕 😕 😕

:mmm: This might be the first topic I am spending my time defending Selenial. I want a cookie.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
That's probably because Traya is far weaker than Vitiate, Surik is (IMO) quite a bit weaker than the HoT, and Meetra has never, to my knowledge, used sever force as an offensive weapon against an opponent.

Fair enough, I couldn't think of many people between Dooku level (Traya) and Sidious tier.

Umm, I guess it's like me trying to say Traya is like Caedus? I dunno.

dis thread tho

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

When you do it to a chic thought it's different... it's just you being a total *******. Are you sexist or something?
This is a sexist statement.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
:mmm: This might be the first topic I am spending my time defending Selenial. I want a cookie.

Literally this entire scene fits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvaE_HCMimQ

Originally posted by Selenial
Fair enough, I couldn't think of many people between Dooku level (Traya) and Sidious tier.

Umm, I guess it's like me trying to say Traya is like Caedus? I dunno.

What about saying Talzin>Sidious.

Originally posted by NemeBro
This is a sexist statement.

Sexism is okay if it's against males. :iwin:

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I am observing a cloud of tension surrounding this thread.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Sexism is okay if it's against males. :iwin:
You're not being sexist against males.

You're being sexist against females.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You're not being sexist against males.

You're being sexist against females.


How?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
How?
Because you're applying a double standard to two different genders, and are saying that as Selenial is a woman she should be protected from mean words. Even if she says them herself first. This is a pandering and sexist point of view.