Crushing and blowing apart Hex droids, shattering blast doors, palming a lightsaber and hadoukening Malgus into a cliff-face, matching Malgus' strength and blitzing Sith Warriors are all Dooku level feats in my book.
Not saying she's 100% equal to him or would win straight up, just that she's on his level.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm sure Satele couldn't have been as stupid as Yoda was during the Clone Wars. She may have put the pieces together better than him.
Yoda wasn't really that dumb during the Clone Wars. As was blatantly stated in the ROTS novel 'The reason why Palpatine wasn't a suspect is because he already controls the Republic'. And 'Without Palpatine the Republic would fall'.
Removing Palpatine from office would have been perceived by the Senate as a Coup de at, hell they even say that they need to take control of the Senate after they arrest him.
Satele also didn't notice the First Son of the Emperor sitting on her goddamned Council with the Force unclouded. Yoda would have been able to detect him imo.
As for this thread:
If Yoda were GM during TOR he'd likely have gone to face Vitiate instead of Tol Braga, then would have STOMPED him. War over.
Also his Battle Mediation would have likely turned the tide of the war earlier. Darth Malgus would be dead, as would Angral, and probably Baras.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Crushing and blowing apart Hex droids, shattering blast doors, palming a lightsaber and hadoukening Malgus into a cliff-face, matching Malgus' strength and blitzing Sith Warriors are all Dooku level feats in my book.Not saying she's 100% equal to him or would win straight up, just that she's on his level.
Satele Shan certainly have the power and talents to handle Count Dooku.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Satele also didn't notice the First Son of the Emperor sitting on her goddamned Council with the Force unclouded. Yoda would have been able to detect him imo.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
As for this thread:
If Yoda were GM during TOR he'd likely have gone to face Vitiate instead of Tol Braga, then would have STOMPED him. War over.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Also his Battle Mediation would have likely turned the tide of the war earlier. Darth Malgus would be dead, as would Angral, and probably Baras.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yoda wasn't really that dumb during the Clone Wars. As was blatantly stated in the ROTS novel 'The reason why Palpatine wasn't a suspect is because he already controls the Republic'. And 'Without Palpatine the Republic would fall'.
Yes. That's stupid. Especially when Dooku explicitly told them that Sidious controlled the Republic and the Senate in AotC. They're just sticking they're fingers in their ears and ignoring the obvious and correct suspect.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes. That's stupid. Especially when Dooku explicitly told them that Sidious controlled the Republic and the Senate in AotC. They're just sticking they're fingers in their ears and ignoring the obvious and correct suspect.
It's... stupid to distrust the word of a known liar?
Originally posted by Nephthys
The smart thing to do would be to doubt them but explore the possibility, not completely write them off. Dismissing the option out of hand was lunacy, especially for the exact reason Dooku had mentioned.
...Except that's not what you said. You're very wisely backpedaling now because the Jedi have every reason to distrust Dooku and absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe him. 😉
But regardless, this is discussed at the end of AOTC. Obi-Wan asks if Dooku was telling the truth even though the idea doesn't feel right. Yoda says Dooku's a dark sider and naturally full of shit and has every reason to spread such gossip. Mace concurs but says they'll keep an eye on the Senate just in case. Yoda agrees.
And boom, there you go. The Jedi doing the cautious, smart thing despite Dooku's obvious agenda and his total lack of credibility.
Lucas > you. excellent
I said it was dumb and then said it was dumb especially for that reason. Not that it was dumb just because of that reason. I didn't say they should suspect him just because of that.
Which is then contradicted by them dismissing Sidious as a suspect because he controls everything. Which is stupid for the reasons stated.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I said it was dumb and then said it was dumb especially for that reason. Not that it was dumb just because of that reason. I didn't say they should suspect him just because of that.
But it's not dumb (at all) and it certainly can't be dumb especially for a perfectly understandable reason: Dooku = known liar, known liars = not trustworthy.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Which is then contradicted by them dismissing Sidious as a suspect because he controls everything. Which is stupid for the reasons stated.
They dismiss Palpatine as Sidious because he already rules the galaxy and the Republic is still standing and the Jedi are still alive and the status quo has endured. But even then, they're superparanoid and distrustful of Palpatine. It's perfectly understandable.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Crushing and blowing apart Hex droids,
shattering blast doors,
palming a lightsaber
and hadoukening Malgus into a cliff-face,
matching Malgus' strength
and blitzing Sith Warriors
are all Dooku level feats in my book.
Not saying she's 100% equal to him or would win straight up, just that she's on his level.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nah.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance)
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nah.
Satele Shan disintegrated a Blast Door with just a touch.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not all of them.
Satele Shan, at one point, held Darth Malgus at bay with one hand and used the other to pull down a gigantic tree. Those trees, based on sheer size, would weigh a 100 tons or more.
In addition, Satele Shan unleashed an esoteric power on the ground which killed 3 Sith Warriors simultaneously.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
She's firmly in the tier below him, albeit in the upper part. Of course I don't rate the HoT as high as you do, so that probably impacts my thoughts of her.
HoT could be easily Yoda-tier, if not better.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nah.Nah.
Yeah
She stored up energy from his lightsaber, so nah.
She didn't match his strength
Fodder, but sure it's close.
Not all of them.
She's firmly in the tier below him, albeit in the upper part. Of course I don't rate the HoT as high as you do, so that probably impacts my thoughts of her.
Yeah. Those were tough droids, crushing them like that is equal to Dooku lifting some obelisks or pulling down that support structure.
I was including her tutaminis and her using the energy from the lightsaber to pwn Malgus in the same example.
She held off Malgus with one hand while TKing that tree and later when she grabbed his saber he couldn't overpower her physically, she's pretty stronk.
Blitzing Sith Warriors is as good a feat as blitzing say, Magnaguards imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc6eDFobJXg&t=0m14s
Sometimes I am embarrassed to even be on the same forum as you.