Originally posted by ILS
It isn't the scope of what a character does that makes them great. TCW Maul could overthrow Sidious and destroy the Jedi for all I care and he'd still be a shitty character. His personality just became so stupidly over the top and Sith-generic.
This, the characteristic I liked about Maul before TCW is that he was a loyal Sith who didn't seem to have the general Sith greed for ruling.
Resurrecting such a... mature, violent kind of character for a kids animation was never going to end well. I want Maul to grow wiser, start talking less again, keep his overconfidence to himself, and have another novel set post-ROTS written by Joe Schreiber. That has nothing to do with the Rebels, or even any of the main characters. Let it be a solo book with a whole new supporting cast. That would cause a massive fangasm.
Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
This, the characteristic I liked about Maul before TCW is that he was a loyal Sith who didn't seem to have the general Sith greed for ruling.
Yeah but how could he remain loyal in TCW when he'd been replaced?
He was Loyal in TPM, but was clearly enthusiastic about Sidious's Sith ambitions. Something he was clearly upset about never having been a part of when he was revived.
He then had to create his own ambitions to have a purpose again.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It's funny, because I don't remember any of you guys going on about how cool Maul was before TCW.
👆 Maul became more interesting with TCW revival, even some ignorant people who think TPM Kenobi could match (or even capable of beating Maul) are dissappeared thanks to TCW. They were lowballing Maul, with ignoring the whole context of the story, which is Maul needed to lose somehow and Sidious needed search for another apprentice for the sake of the plot. (Which is Darth Vader)
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Not at all. It was the Legend Eu's naivety to think Maul was just supposed to be a mere assassin(well from some of the writers anyway). In TCW however you can clearly see Sidious was this guys teacher all over.
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Unfortunetely some EU writers are incompetent and they think Sidious would never make any mistake, (despite the fact he did another great mistake about his trust on Vader in RotJ) and for showing Sidious like some god, they tried to show that Maul's death has been necessary just like Dooku's death in RotS, I mean you need to be a retard for training an apprentice over 10 years so he can die in TPM just that easy. Lucas himself already explained that Sidious shouldn't have lost his apprentice in the first place, but still some people were decisive on being ignorant, so because of these kind of people, they have to resurrect Darth Maul for showing that his true capabilities as a Sith Lord.
Originally posted by ILS
IKR? They're basically saying they prefer TCW Maul because he's more powerful than TPM Maul. If these are the SW fans writers will now pander to then I can't see Maul's character progression getting any better....
Exactly, if you like a character primarily because of their strength, that's kinda silly. Maul could have been awesome if they handled his return right, he was a major letdown.
EDIT - This is the only reason Marco really gets on my nerves, tbh. He's desperate to "prove" that Maul was greater than he actually is.
@trocity you are already on my ignore list troll, why are you so desperate to arguing with me ? I am just talking with DP here, yet you are coming with your classic troll behaviour and pretend like a SW authority who knows everything.
Now, TPM Maul was unfortunetely, people like you (and ILS), misunderstood. Because ''Just a mere assassin'' cliche...
I don't even know wtf are you talking about here, TCW was great (and necessary) for Maul's character. He proved lots of things. Even some Eu writers considered Maul as just an ''assassin'' which was completely wrong and stupid, now all this craps become non-canon, and now we have a very capable ''Lord'' Maul, you need to accept the canon. Maul was nothing like Savage or Asajj Ventress, he was a ''Sith Lord'' ...it seems people like you don't even know what it means.
Originally posted by ILS
Maul as "just a mere assassin" is a much more enjoyable character than whatever came out of Lotho Minor. I'd go as far as to say I liked Savage more than TCW Maul.
Then go watch/read the Asajj Ventress stories. That's you're powerful dark side assassin turned Bounty Hunter for you.
No need to rid Maul of his true and clear purpose from day 1.
What, I can't enjoy Asajj Ventress and pretend TCW Maul doesn't exist at the same time?
Maul's "true and clear purpose" wasn't to be a shitty character from day 1, actually. That was only implemented when Filoni and his band of shitty writers decided to milk Maul for all he's worth by resurrecting him.