Originally posted by thingy150
I hate how much people underestimate hawkman, he is badass.
DC's really pushing his healing factor. In Lemire's JLU, Hawkman blew up or withstood a huge explosion and now he's back. In Futures End, he died along with Stormwatch and now the Nth metal healed him back.
DCnU Hawkman is much more formidable now than he was before the reboot.
Originally posted by Golgo13
DC's really pushing his healing factor. In Lemire's JLU, Hawkman blew up or withstood a huge explosion and now he's back. In Futures End, he died along with Stormwatch and now the Nth metal healed him back.DCnU Hawkman is much more formidable now than he was before the reboot.
Thank you for the scans but i have already seen them lol, hawkman has a lot of potential to become a major hitter, i think they should keep pushing how powerful his weapons are(magical).
He totally one shotted shazam also(he is almost featless tho)
Hawkman is awesome and really underrated.
Originally posted by Golgo13DCnU Hawkman is much more formidable now than he was before the reboot.
I find that pretty hard to believe. I know that his Nth metal now molds to his will and he can form full body armor with it when he wants. But seriously, Pre 52 HM battled Black Adam for several pages during 52 and was still standing due to his HF. he had a wall crushed on him by BA took many of his best blows and was thrown by BA from above a sky scraper straight down to the ground and through a cars engine block. After which he got up bleeding and flew away for help.
He's taken arrows straight through the heart and kept fighting. he's had his arm nearly severed off in Trinity and it healed while he battled. He had his carotid artery severed when he wasn't wearing his wings and by simply having them placed on him he healed in seconds.
I've heard of nothing he's new 52 that makes him any more durable or formidable than he already was.
Originally posted by beatboks
I find that pretty hard to believe. I know that his Nth metal now molds to his will and he can form full body armor with it when he wants. But seriously, Pre 52 HM battled Black Adam for several pages during 52 and was still standing due to his HF. he had a wall crushed on him by BA took many of his best blows and was thrown by BA from above a sky scraper straight down to the ground and through a cars engine block. After which he got up bleeding and flew away for help.He's taken arrows straight through the heart and kept fighting. he's had his arm nearly severed off in Trinity and it healed while he battled. He had his carotid artery severed when he wasn't wearing his wings and by simply having them placed on him he healed in seconds.
I've heard of nothing he's new 52 that makes him any more durable or formidable than he already was.
Puny arrows?! Bah! Hawkman survived an explosion that was said to be able to destroy an entire planet. His armor was still intact. He's also survived bullets and blows from Aquaman and Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by thingy150
He knocked out captain marvel in one shot......new 52 hawkman takes the cake vs pre 52.He also took a planet busting explosion.
And your point?? Using the claw of Horus pre 52 he knocked Superman into Orbit. The pre 52 Nth metal also always absorbed energy, surviving bomb blasts is hardly anything new (or energy blasts etc)
Originally posted by Golgo13
Puny arrows?! Bah! Hawkman survived an explosion that was said to be able to destroy an entire planet. His armor was still intact. He's also survived bullets and blows from Aquaman and Wonder Woman.
Again so what. Pre 52 Hawkman beat Aquaman in a fight too (complete and utter PIS and you can't believe how much that pisses an AQ fan like me off) And as I already said he took a hiding from BA for several pages and kept on coming.
Originally posted by beatboks
And your point?? Using the claw of Horus pre 52 he knocked Superman into Orbit. The pre 52 Nth metal also always absorbed energy, surviving bomb blasts is hardly anything new (or energy blasts etc)Again so what. Pre 52 Hawkman beat Aquaman in a fight too (complete and utter PIS and you can't believe how much that pisses an AQ fan like me off) And as I already said he took a hiding from BA for several pages and kept on coming.
DCnU Aquaman is more formidable in the strength department. And show the scans of Black Adam. Last time I saw BA fight Hawkman, he got his ass beat.
Originally posted by Golgo13
DCnU Aquaman is more formidable in the strength department. And show the scans of Black Adam. Last time I saw BA fight Hawkman, he got his ass beat.
Show me a single feat Nu52 of Aquaman that is above the sub Diego feat. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/137442/3167641-1413684941-aquam.jpg
Pre 52 he lifted a city block. That's a feat of around 300,000 tons
He's also lifted an 18 story building, Ocean liners and Oil platforms (up to 55,000 tons) pre 52.
People have the perception that he is stronger Nu52, doesn't make it so.
vs Superman pre 52
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388002-8708923823-14943.jpg
vs BA
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388384-adamhawk.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388385-adamhawk1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388386-adamhawk2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388387-adamhawk3.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388388-adamhawk4.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388389-adamhawk5.jpg
So after 6 pages of battle with BA crushing a wall on him, and throwing him through an engine block HM can still walk and fly and go for help.
Bare in mind pre 52 the amount of Nth metal he wears is only that laced into the straps of his harness, a few grams. he didn't have any Nth metal armor and I already said that he has gained that upgrade Nu52. You said he was more formidable, if pre 52 HM had the same amount of Nth metal he would have been more formidable than as the armor is the only upgrade he has and whilst he's gained that he has lost more.
No where Nu52 have I seen Nth metal show it's energy absorption capability. No where have I seen it allow someone to affect electromagnetic forces, strong or weak nuclear forces and in effect reality warp (as was done by Ominar Synn)
They made more of his costume Nth metal (a lot more) made it moldable that increases his blunt force durability but he could match that durability with the HF prior and he's lost a lot more power than he's gained.
LOL. Are you actually claiming that HM is even remotely a match for the man of steel? If so, then you're just another kool-aid drinker. Why even bother bringing up what he did to Superman in that Supes/Bats comic? It's a claw of Horus feat not a Hawkman feat. Isn't it magical? It's not part of Hawkman's normal equipment is it? Besides, that was a sucker punch anyway. Superman didn't realize HM had anything on him that could do something like that. I seriously doubt he'd be lucky enough to do it to Superman again since Clark would be ready for it. In a normal fight Superman would cream his *** 10/10.
