Suicide Squad

Originally posted by Inhuman
Lets also not forget about the gold chains, earings, gold watch , etc, as well

Im sure everyone would be ecstatic for a "different take" on Punisher.
Like he could now joke around like deadpool while fighting criminals. Also he now doesnt kill criminals he takes them down to the police station to be locked up and go to trial.

Great idea to change the things that a character stands for. Fun thing is this re-imagining stuff. 👆

Except that there isn't just one Joker in the comics. All of them are different, so I don't know why you think there is just one depiction of him.

Edit out that image so you don't **** up this page you turd.

Oh, the chains were dumb as shit. Not to mention the tattoos, even if the explanation for them is kind of all right.

The car though? Fine, imo.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Lets also not forget about the gold chains, earings, gold watch , etc, as well

Im sure everyone would be ecstatic for a "different take" on Punisher.
Like he could now joke around like deadpool while fighting criminals. Also he now doesnt kill criminals he takes them down to the police station to be locked up and go to trial.

Great idea to change the things that a character stands for. Fun thing is this re-imagining stuff. 👆

You described superficial aspects of a character you disliked, so what what bearing did his fillings and chains have on his dialogue, motivations, or the core aspect of his depiction? How were you able to deduce this from the 5 minutes of screen time he is? You're butthurt over how he looks, how did this destroy who he was for the barebones amount of time he was seen?

You're making a false comparison, when has any cinematic portrayal of Frank Castle ever altered his character to make jokes, forget his purpose of vengeance, or changed his morose and serious personality? By your logic MCU Frank is a false portrayal because he didn't wear his Skull shirt, and is seen in green army fatigues in pictures rather than a trenchcoat and black. What damage was done to his character that so radically departs from past versions?

Checkmate: He's psychotic, has a codependent relationship with Harley, is severe enough to be committed Arkham Asylum, has no compunction about killing, is physically abusive, is a gangster/crime boss with hoodlums, and has taken personal strikes at Batman ala kiling Robin

I get you dislike his appearance and have some crazed personal issues with the DCEU. But how exactly is he as outlandish as your poor Punisher comparison?

lol @ crazed personal issue. Lets not reach too much.

Anyhow without dropping a wall of text on your dome ill keep it short.
Remember in The Dark Knight where Joker had a mountain of money he didnt give 2 shits about? He just burned it because it didnt mean jack shit to him.
It fits because money is not what the Joker is about. He is crazy right? He just want to cause choas and mess with Batman.
In SS this Joker "CARES" about money. From his expensive gold chains, gold watch, earnings, exotic cars, fashionable attire, etc. He is all about that lifestyle.
Im pretty sure he owns that club where he offered Common's character Harley.
Again more of a common mob boss/money mentality.
That totally goes against who the character is at his core. Whats he is all about. Besides the dumb outer appearance.

This isnt hard to see tbh. 😬

Yeah , Leto's Joker was awful.

They love the joker mob boss. Oh those foolish DC fans will love whatever Warner throws their way.

Countdown to when Golgo will post how much money its made.

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Originally posted by carthage
It's like you can't reimagine or do a different take on a character or something. mmm

I'm fine with a new spin on a character if done well; SS joker wasn't done well imo.

So I might get a little bit of hate for this but I don't think Leto's Joker is completely without basis in the comic book. True the bling and chains are new but the eccentric mob/gang boss has existed in the comic and for awhile now. I think people just love Heath's Agent of Chaos version so much they forget other incarnations of the Joker. Even in other adaptations like TAS he has been depicted as crazily leading a gang with Harley at his side.

So the idea of Leto's Joker isn't too far fetched for me. I even think he had some good scenes in this movie, for instance when he is threatening the ahole guard from the prison. My problem with him is that I don't feel we got to see enough or offer the character enough to get a good idea of how they will be as a primary antagonist. Honestly I think they should have just saved Leto for Flashbacks in this movie and not have had the rescue Harley subplot.

It was just another thing in already crowded movie.

Another thing that was off is that, Since when is Joker a hopeless romantic?
Letting love dictate his actions is not in Jokers character. Again, maybe I havent read the newest Joker comics and this is the new "re-imagined" version in the comics.
The only reason he was in the movie was for the "romantic" subplot with Harley.
So thist along with my previous post about Jokers mentality on money & bling is why i didnt like this version/"re-imagining" of the character.

Besides his dumb look.
Also in the Dark Knight, you can tell Joker looked the way he did because he is off mentally.
In SS the Joker looks like he carefully cares about "his look". He probably spends some time in front of a mirror getting his look right before stepping outside. I can see him going to a salon to get his hair and nails done. Gets a facial, etc.
So this Joker actually heavily cares about his fashion sense.
Lots of shit about this Joker seem off 😬

You should really update yourself on the Joker. lol He's always had a thing for Harley. Even though he does love her, he's unpredictable. One moment they're kissing and at other times, he's throwing her under the bus.

Originally posted by Zack M
lol He's always had a thing for Harley.

lol, no he ****ing hasn't.

Might want to take your own advice there, Golgo. For years she was little more than at best, his favourite toy.

That's not how I see it. You can tell there is some feelings from the Joker. Their relationship is unpredictable.

There have been times when Joker has appeared to love her in his own strange way, yes. Even when he was incredibly abusive, there were moments of tenderness.

Despite what SS told us, though, through all that stuff being cut, she isn't his true love. Batman is. That's been almost constant since long before she was ever conceived. Acting like they're some Bonnie and Clyde, which the internet seems to think they are, is little more than false advertising. She's been a tool that he loves manipulating, that he just doesn't like to share, more than she has ever been anything close to a loved partner.

And let's not even get started on how much he abused the shit out of her.

Originally posted by -Pr-
There have been times when Joker has appeared to love her in his own strange way, yes. Even when he was incredibly abusive, there were moments of tenderness.

Despite what SS told us, though, through all that stuff being cut, she isn't his true love. Batman is. That's been almost constant since long before she was ever conceived. Acting like they're some Bonnie and Clyde, which the internet seems to think they are, is little more than false advertising. She's been a tool that he loves manipulating, that he just doesn't like to share, more than she has ever been anything close to a loved partner.

And let's not even get started on how much he abused the shit out of her.

That's pretty much what I mean. In an early issue of Harley, Harley goes to Arkham and breaks Joker free. The issue retcons their relationship and shows that they broke up long ago. Harley complains that he never really loved her, but he takes her and kisses her. Harley bites his lip and says we are finished. lol

Plus, are you following current Rebirth? There are three Jokers. Meaning there isn't just one depiction of the Joker, I believe.

Yeah making Joker have romantic feelings for Harley was kind of dumb. However he did leave her to die after his car crashed so that was something right?

Though what even stranger is that this version of Joker and Harley apparently managed to kill Robin and Batman doesn't go on his Snyder-murder spree trying to take them down either before BvS or during SS.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Yeah making Joker have romantic feelings for Harley was kind of dumb. However he did leave her to die after his car crashed so that was something right?

Though what even stranger is that this version of Joker and Harley apparently managed to kill Robin and Batman doesn't go on his Snyder-murder spree trying to take them down either before BvS or during SS.

That's what I meant when he would throw her under the bus. Pretty much comic like.

Originally posted by Zack M
That's what I meant when he would throw her under the bus. Pretty much comic like.

But that totally contradicts Joker killing a guy because he showed interest in Harley, Joker jumping after Harley after she jumps in the liquid. Then passionately kissing her. Investing all his time and effort in getting Harley out of Jail. Torturing jail security to find out info on how to break her out.
Pretty much Jokers whole operation is at a standstill till he got Harley back in the end. Again with a passionate romantic kiss.

You dont seem to know these characters too well Golgo 😬

Originally posted by -Pr-
There have been times when Joker has appeared to love her in his own strange way, yes. Even when he was incredibly abusive, there were moments of tenderness.

Despite what SS told us, though, through all that stuff being cut, she isn't his true love. Batman is. That's been almost constant since long before she was ever conceived. Acting like they're some Bonnie and Clyde, which the internet seems to think they are, is little more than false advertising. She's been a tool that he loves manipulating, that he just doesn't like to share, more than she has ever been anything close to a loved partner.

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