Originally posted by NewGuy01
Who are you referring to? I don't think anyone here thinks that.
gogeta has credited madara, regular bijuu mode naruto and raikage with being faster than light. maybe not in this thread but hes the main one i remember stating it in other threads. that and he thinks naruto knows hiraishin on top of being ftl smh (facepalm)
Originally posted by chasedown
gogeta has credited madara, regular bijuu mode naruto and raikage with being faster than light. maybe not in this thread but hes the main one i remember stating it in other threads. that and he thinks naruto knows hiraishin on top of being ftl smh (facepalm)
1. Raikage has Light speed reflexes. Outright stated. And it isn't hyperbole, because Cee didn't say it to anyone.
2. Naruto DOES know Hiraishin.
"TELEPORT TECHNIQUE, and a right handed smash, but all I saw... was a yellow flash!".
What, do you think Naruto invented his own teleport technique? No, he inherited it from Minato. That is all. Also proven in the 700th chapter when Bolt says, "Hiraishin? No fair!", when Naruto teleports and snatches him off the Hokage monument.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You don't need to say it to someone for it to be hyperbole.
Yes, but Shee giving an analysis to a battle in his head, and exaggerating to do so doesn't make any sense.
He didn't say that Raikage was "as fast as light", he said that, "his synapses fire as fast as a flash of light", which is too descriptive to claim as hyperbole.
You wouldn't think something like that to yourself, meaning that your "hyperbole" argument is completely moot. Stop trying to be right by ignoring the scans, and just accept it already. 👆
Originally posted by chasedown
if naruto knew hiraishin he wouldnt have needed to be saved multiple times and always ask someone who knew the technique for help.
Are you thick?
Naruto has never needed someone to warp him unless he was trying to save someone, or wasn't in Biju mode. That only means he can't warp other people. This makes sense, as he doesn't use the seal, like Minato.
He can still use it himself when he needs to. 👆
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Shunshin, not Hiraishin.
What do you think a "shunshin" is?
A TELEPORTATION jutsu.
Hiraishin is an advanced Shunshin technique, that boarders on the line of space-time ninjutsu, such as Kamui. This is only because of how fast it warps the user, which is credited with being the speed of light.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Are you thick?Naruto has never needed someone to warp him unless he was trying to save someone, or wasn't in Biju mode. That only means he can't warp other people. This makes sense, as he doesn't use the seal, like Minato.
He can still use it himself when he needs to. 👆
so naruto didnt need any help when juubito grabbed both him and sasuke or when nagato was about to rip both him and bee's souls out of thier bodies
btw shunshin no jutsu isnt teleportation hiraishin is shunshin is just fast movement... kind of like bleachs flash step except in bleach they cover miles with the flash step
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-362-11/naruto/chapter-357.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-362-12/naruto/chapter-357.html
h http://www.mangapanda.com/93-362-13/naruto/chapter-357.html
shunshin no jutsu isnt teleportation its just fast movement in essence a less advanced flash step because flash steps cover a geat deal more distance
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Except Shunshin isn't actual teleportation, it's more like Bleach's flash-step.
Exactly, which is why Hiraishin boarders on the space-time ninjutsu class. Because Hiraishin is the fastest shunshin there is, as it lets the user move for a brief moment, at the speed of light. Flash step does not. 👆
Originally posted by chasedown
so naruto didnt need any help when juubito grabbed both him and sasuke or when nagato was about to rip both him and bee's souls out of thier bodiesbtw shunshin no jutsu isnt teleportation hiraishin is shunshin is just fast movement... kind of like bleachs flash step except in bleach they cover miles with the flash step
Um, what?
1. That never happened, unless you're talking about with Jyuubito, in which case I already explained that Sasuke still would have died. 👆
2. Naruto's soul was already being ripped out. If he warped away, his soul would have come out completely and Nagato would have killed him.
3. Hiraishin IS a shunshin jutsu. It's been stated many times. However, it's so fast, that it boarders on the space-time ninjutsu classification, because it lets the user fling themselves to a seal at the speed of light. Naruto is just able to use it without the seal, which also makes it use more chakra and shortens the range greatly. Flash step is SOLELY putting a bunch of reiatsu into a single step to propel yourself forward at high speed. Only captains and higher can use it to cross A MILE(not multiple miles), and even then still can't move fast enough to dodge something like an earth bound explosion. Meaning even Aizen's flash step wasn't above mach 30. 👆
Originally posted by chasedown
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-362-11/naruto/chapter-357.htmlhttp://www.mangapanda.com/93-362-12/naruto/chapter-357.html
h http://www.mangapanda.com/93-362-13/naruto/chapter-357.htmlshunshin no jutsu isnt teleportation its just fast movement in essence a less advanced flash step because flash steps cover a geat deal more distance
What are you trying to say here? Hiraishin IS a shunshin. It's been stated DOZENS OF TIMES.
Hiraishin is simply so fast that it boarders on the line of space-time ninjutsu.
Now, since you're clearly trying to wank Bleach here, and somehow make it seem stronger than Naruto, I'll simply point out this.
THE HOKAGE'S JUST USED SHUNSHIN'S TO TRAVEL ACROSS A CONTINENT TO REACH THE NINJA WAR BATTLEFIELD. 👆
Not to mention that the Hokage's are all pretty close to Minato in terms of Shunshin speed, meaning they're all pretty close to light speed. 👆
Bleach characters peak at lightning speed, and that's current top tiers of the Quincy. 👆
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
What are you trying to say here? Hiraishin IS a shunshin. It's been stated DOZENS OF TIMES.Hiraishin is simply so fast that it boarders on the line of space-time ninjutsu.
Now, since you're clearly trying to wank Bleach here, and somehow make it seem stronger than Naruto, I'll simply point out this.
THE HOKAGE'S JUST USED SHUNSHIN'S TO TRAVEL ACROSS A CONTINENT TO REACH THE NINJA WAR BATTLEFIELD. 👆
Not to mention that the Hokage's are all pretty close to Minato in terms of Shunshin speed, meaning they're all pretty close to light speed. 👆
Bleach characters peak at lightning speed, and that's current top tiers of the Quincy. 👆
whose trying to wank bleach i was just stating fact bleach characters have been shown to travel more ground faster than most naruto characters ever since the soul society and up
where did you get that translation the second states hiraishin in this panel in all the other manga translations i read.
also it took the kage a few chapters to get to the battle by the way
shunshin can be used by anybody
hiraishin is teleportation shunshin is not its just fast movement from point a to b the two are different that is all.
hiraishin is space time teleportation. shunshin is running from point a to b
Originally posted by chasedown
whose trying to wank bleach i was just stating fact bleach characters have been shown to travel more ground faster than most naruto characters ever since the soul society and upwhere did you get that translation the second states hiraishin in this panel in all the other manga translations i read.
also it took the kage a few chapters to get to the battle by the way
shunshin can be used by anybody
hiraishin is teleportation shunshin is not its just fast movement from point a to b the two are different that is all.
hiraishin is space time teleportation. shunshin is running from point a to b
That's not a fact though. As I clearly just proved. 👆
No he doesn't. I got this chapter from manga panda. The most versatile translator there is. He said shunshin. That is all. The second Hokage has Hiraishin, but it's not even close to Minato's. Not to mention that the other Kage did the same thing. Are you saying that the third Hokage also has Hiraishin? 👆
Yes, shunshin can be used by anybody. What don't you get about this? The only difference between regular shunshin, and Hiraishin, is that Hiraishin is ridiculously faster. It is light speed, and regular shunshin speed depends on how strong/fast the user is.
Hiraishin is NOT a space-time ninjutsu. Look it up. It is specifically a special, advanced shunshin made by the second Hokage, and perfected by the fourth, that lets the user move at light speed for a brief instant. It boarders on space-time ninjutsu, only because it is so fast that it might as well be instant since no ninja in Naruto is faster than it.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
That's not a fact though. As I clearly just proved. 👆No he doesn't. I got this chapter from manga panda. The most versatile translator there is. He said shunshin. That is all. The second Hokage has Hiraishin, but it's not even close to Minato's. Not to mention that the other Kage did the same thing. Are you saying that the third Hokage also has Hiraishin? 👆
Yes, shunshin can be used by anybody. What don't you get about this? The only difference between regular shunshin, and Hiraishin, is that Hiraishin is ridiculously faster. It is light speed, and regular shunshin speed depends on how strong/fast the user is.
Hiraishin is NOT a space-time ninjutsu. Look it up. It is specifically a special, advanced shunshin made by the second Hokage, and perfected by the fourth, that lets the user move at light speed for a brief instant. It boarders on space-time ninjutsu, only because it is so fast that it might as well be instant since no ninja in Naruto is faster than it.
so now hiraishin isnt teleportation? (facepalm) youve got to be deluded. and i never said anything about the third or 1st
i dont have to look anything up i just showed you sasuke doing the technique all in one panel. it is just fast movement.
the kage used shunshin to get to the battlefield( although idk why because minato and the second's hiraishin wouldve got them there faster) if they wouldve used hiraishin instead of shunshin it wouldnt have taken them however many chapters it took for them to get there.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Thunder_God_Technique
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Body_Flicker_Technique
theres a big difference between the two since one is high speedmovement and the other is teleportation