Bill Cosby Rape Allegations

Originally posted by red g jacks
i'm not 'supposed' to do a lot of things yet i do them anyway. you don't like my objection? that's cool. yet i'm not the only person answering your rhetorical question so maybe it's not me being weird and it's actually that your rhetorical question wasn't such a great point.

"Derp, I'm not the only one who believes x so it must be true!!!"

Argumentum ad populum

Check it out: male celebrities have tons and tons of sex. The idea that Bill Cosby would need to use a date rape drug to get laid is quite stupid.

"But! But!!! BUT!!! He could have been raping to do the fantasy control bla bla bla."

That's a shitty argument and it heavily relies on another logical fallacy: argumentum ad ignorantiam.

Celebrities don't need date rape drugs to get laid. That's the rhetoric. You have nothing substantial to offer as a counter besides silly unlikely scenarios that you have no way of substantiating.

I'll put it more simply so you can understand: exploring extremely unlikely explanations is really stupid. I don't want to explore your stupid ideas as it adds nothing but stupidity to the topic.

"But! But! Rape fantasies, man! RAPE FANTASIES!" Okay. You've got me. Bill Cosby took his rape fantasies too far and risked his career over many decades raping the shit out of many women and only 4 are brave enough to come forward. Case close, guys, Red solved everything.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
You're absolutely right. I have no evidence whatsoever on whether he's guilty or innocent. I have exactly the same I information the media has given to you, me & every other poster who has commented on this thread.
Personally I couldn't care less about BC but I'm not the one who claimed knew better because they personally knew some other celebrity & based their judgement on that. You did.
Jimmy Sommervile got labelled as the worst child molester the UK has ever since. He got exposed 20-30 years after the crimes he committed. Same with Rolf Harris. Both worked in the entertainment industry as family friendly roles.
I'M NOT USING THESE 2 CELEBRITIES TO CAST JUDGEMENT ON COSBY, I'm simply pointing out that people can have dark sides to them & if they're a public figure then it's easier & probably inevitable that their pasts will catch up with them.
ONCE AGAIN I HAVE NO PROOF OF COSBY'S WRONG DOING NOR AM I USING HARRIS OR SOMMERVILE AS EXAMPLES OF HIS GUILT.
I'm simply pointing out that there is a facade to people, some who choose to be celebrities & not to necessarily believe the clean cut images they portray.

Cool.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Rape is a dangerous fantasy to have. Role playing with your consensual partner or a paid prostitute doesn't give the same thrill as the real thing.

But you're still committing the some fallacy as Red. You cannot pretend that this extremely unlikely scenario is entertain-able without evidence.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Let's not shift the focus here on me knowing, as fact, that landing poo-nanner is quite easy with just a bit of fame.

Dude, what the hell are you trying to say here?

What's a "landing poo-nanner"?

Originally posted by dadudemon
"Derp, I'm not the only one who believes x so it must be true!!!"

Argumentum ad populum

Check it out: male celebrities have tons and tons of sex. The idea that Bill Cosby would need to use a date rape drug to get laid is quite stupid.

"But! But!!! BUT!!! He could have been raping to do the fantasy control bla bla bla."

That's a shitty argument and it heavily relies on another logical fallacy: argumentum ad ignorantiam.

Celebrities don't need date rape drugs to get laid. That's the rhetoric. You have nothing substantial to offer as a counter besides silly unlikely scenarios that you have no way of substantiating.

I'll put it more simply so you can understand: exploring extremely unlikely explanations is really stupid. I don't want to explore your stupid ideas as it adds nothing but stupidity to the topic.

"But! But! Rape fantasies, man! RAPE FANTASIES!" Okay. You've got me. Bill Cosby took his rape fantasies too far and risked his career over many decades raping the shit out of many women and only 4 are brave enough to come forward. Case close, guys, Red solved everything.

edit - i just noticed you said "and only 4 came forward." lol. oh well never mind then. only 4 women accused him of rape? i guess he's innocent then man you're right. you should probably be his lawyer bro.

[i]Originally posted by dadudemon [/i

But you're still committing the some fallacy as Red. You cannot pretend that this extremely unlikely scenario is entertain-able without evidence. [/B]

Of course I have no evidence to what personally turns Cosby on sexually.
He's clean cut image on TV as a family man never touched or hinted on sexuality.

Hell, the notion that Bill Cosby actually had a penis never occurred to me before the allegations! 😮

Did anyone ever look at Clinton & see a guy who got off with his cigar?

i assume by default that most politicians are secret perverts

And I assume by default that you have no sense of humour whatsoever.

i didn't get the cigar reference i guess

One of the things Monica Lewinski claimed Clinton did to her was to insert his cigar into her pussy & claim he was looking forward to smoking it later...

lol. that's why he's my favorite president since kennedy.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Unless you're the same age as Cosby, most women I know aren't into grandfather figures.

1. Keyword "most".

2. You may have a point if he was just a grandfather figure.

3. You don't know much about women. And I'm not even trying to insult you or insinuate anything. Most people don't.

Women can have many other reasons why they are "into" someone.

I also find the women who claim men don't understand them are the same women who think men are simple & shallow, defined by their nether regions.

And it's funny that all your examples are of rich old men.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I also find the women who claim men don't understand them are the same women who think men are simple & shallow, defined by their nether regions.

And it's funny that all your examples are of rich old men.

Why is it funny?

I never said money was the only reason. But sure, Bill is worth $350-400 million.

Ok. I thought u were hinting at genuine love & respect that a woman may see in an older guy but basically you're just confirming the obvious...women want Sugar Daddies not romance.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Check it out: male celebrities have tons and tons of sex. The idea that Bill Cosby would need to use a date rape drug to get laid is quite stupid.

The underlying assumption here, that you don't outright state, is that women are completely interchangeable. The question is not "Does Bill Cosby need a date rape drug to have sex at all", it is "Does Bill Cosby need a date rape drug to have sex with this particularly woman".

God I hate to say this, but it's the truth.....there are a hell of a lot of false rape allegations that occur. I've read many studies in the different criminology courses that I took. There was a study of a particular city in Texas that alluded to half of the allegations being malicious and untrue.
Celebrities are particularly vulnerable due to the money factor, Kobe for example . I know somebody here will bash me for saying this but the rape card is real indeed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
"Derp, I'm not the only one who believes x so it must be true!!!"

Argumentum ad populum

Check it out: male celebrities have tons and tons of sex. The idea that Bill Cosby would need to use a date rape drug to get laid is quite stupid.

"But! But!!! BUT!!! He could have been raping to do the fantasy control bla bla bla."

That's a shitty argument and it heavily relies on another logical fallacy: argumentum ad ignorantiam.

Celebrities don't need date rape drugs to get laid. That's the rhetoric. You have nothing substantial to offer as a counter besides silly unlikely scenarios that you have no way of substantiating.

I'll put it more simply so you can understand: exploring extremely unlikely explanations is really stupid. I don't want to explore your stupid ideas as it adds nothing but stupidity to the topic.

"But! But! Rape fantasies, man! RAPE FANTASIES!" Okay. You've got me. Bill Cosby took his rape fantasies too far and risked his career over many decades raping the shit out of many women and only 4 are brave enough to come forward. Case close, guys, Red solved everything.

This made the same assumption and mistake I did earlier tha Quincy in a roundabout way pointed out. Rape isn't always just about sex, Cosby could just be a ****ing degenerate.

And as Bardock pointed out, Cosby's fame doesn't mean he gets to have sex with any woman he wants with ease, it's possible he used drugs/rape to get to the women who rejected his pudding pop.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The question is not "Does Bill Cosby need a date rape drug to have sex at all", it is "Does Bill Cosby need a date rape drug to have sex with this particularly woman".

That's not the question, either. The question is, "Why would an A-List celebrity need to use a date-rape drug to have sex with anyone?" And we can add, "And went uncaught for decades, while being an extremely visible public figure, and fits a serial rapist profile?"

Your question is easily answerable with his 1982 allegation when a woman went back to his cabin (I assume) and claims she was drugged and molested. That doesn't add up. Unless, of course, this famous model was a sheltered Mormon who doesn't know what happens when you go back to a man's place (Mormons like that exist: trust me).

Janice Dickinson, a well-known former model, added her name to the list of accusers, saying Mr. Cosby brought her to Lake Tahoe in 1982 and drugged and raped her. That charge has drawn the most virulent response; a lawyer for Mr. Cosby, Martin Singer, called Ms. Dickinson’s claim a “fabricated lie.”

Originally posted by red g jacks
the idea that bill cosby couldn't get laid without the date rape drug is stupid. the idea that bill cosby could've been a ****ed up person who raped people anyway is not that stupid, when there's a ton of people accusing him of rape. sure it could be character assassination and he could be innocent. or there could be something to it and he could be a rapist. you can keep pretending like its obvious he wouldn't do it cause "celebrities get mad pussy dog" but that's just as dumb as any of my made up bullshit at the end of day no matter how many latin slogans you pull out of your hat.

edit - i just noticed you said "and only 4 came forward." lol. oh well never mind then. only 4 women accused him of rape? i guess he's innocent then man you're right. you should probably be his lawyer bro.

Looks like you've already convicted him with 0 evidence and still ignored all the counter-arguments I made to everything you stated in this post of yours. It's idiocy like this that makes me think people like you should lose the right to vote.

🙂

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Dude, what the hell are you trying to say here?

What's a "landing poo-nanner"?

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Poo-nanner is a derogatory and sexist term for "vagina."

I like you. 🙂

Guys! Relax! It's settled! Because an A-List celebrity has multiple sexual assault allegations, he's clearly guilty. No evidence required. When does Cosby report to prison for his sentence?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Guys! Relax! It's settled! Because an A-List celebrity has multiple sexual assault allegations, he's clearly guilty. No evidence required. When does Cosby report to prison for his sentence?

There seems to be maybe two people in here who are convinced he's a rapist.