Thor Vs Orion

Originally posted by thingy150
Not even close to the same thing, drax had extra powers to kill thanos and orion is just better than darkseid in every single way.

My point being, no matter what happens, Orion would always kill Darkseid. And so, showings of him killing Darkseid are....iffy, because he would always succeed.

Like how Doomsday in the Death of Superman storyline was ALWAYS going to kill Superman - because the plot demanded it, being as it was in a comic book called 'The Death of Superman'.

Originally posted by carver9
@Iceman...

Had too, but anyways, Thor isn't slow and Orion isn't weak.

Thor flies faster than the speed of light.

Thor slapping bullets out of the air.

Hell, he recently flew FTL against Gorr. Stated on panel.

Flying has nothing to do with combat speed, orion has the combat speed to keep up with superman.....thor cant even keep up with wolverine or spiderman

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44803.jpg

The few feats thor has of reaction time are very old, now his reaction time has severely diminished.

Orion has this fight in the bag, he fights smarter and uses all of his tools, thor charges into battle and tries to brawl he does not use mjolnir well enough to beat orion. Orion can deflect thor's attacks with his astro force just like he did to kalibak and darkseid. Orion is faster and has kept up with faster people not to mention the fact that he can destroy worlds and knocked out superman in one shot.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4254/orion25311.th.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3681/orion2532.th.jpg

Orion has broken apart planets.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7762/newgods0821.th.jpg

He can tank darkseids omega beams.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My point being, no matter what happens, Orion would always kill Darkseid. And so, showings of him killing Darkseid are....iffy, because he would always succeed.

Like how Doomsday in the Death of Superman storyline was ALWAYS going to kill Superman - because the plot demanded it, being as it was in a comic book called 'The Death of Superman'.

He has not always beaten darkseid, DS has punked him a few times before but once orion reached his true potential and the height of his power lvl he wrecked DS.

It is not the plot that calls for it, orion is just superior, he is stronger, faster, a better fighter and has better equipment(which he did not use when he killed him but he has used to foil DS mega beams)

Orion beat darkseid with his bare hands, he has 1 shotted superman, he fought evenly with superman, one time he wrecked superman in a fight so bad the JLA apologized to superman for letting him fight him.

Orion has got this.

Originally posted by thingy150
He has not always beaten darkseid, DS has punked him a few times before but once orion reached his true potential and the height of his power lvl he wrecked DS.

It is not the plot that calls for it, orion is just superior, he is stronger, faster, a better fighter and has better equipment(which he did not use when he killed him but he has used to foil DS mega beams)

Orion beat darkseid with his bare hands, he has 1 shotted superman, he fought evenly with superman, one time he wrecked superman in a fight so bad the JLA apologized to superman for letting him fight him.

Orion has got this.

He hasn't always beaten Darkseid - because the plot didn't call for it. Once it did, however, then Orion killed him. Simple as. I'm sure you know of the prophecy that Orion would kill his father, right?

As for the fights with Superman.....lol. I'm sure someone from the house of El would educate you properly, as they have the scans (Abhi, in particular, will fly to his rescue).

Typically Thor is portrayed as pretty slow, but I find it hard to believe that if Thor is going multiple times the speed of light, that he's just being pulled along with no perception of where he is. Just blinded by how fast he's going lol.

Thor wins after a good battle

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He hasn't always beaten Darkseid - because the plot didn't call for it. Once it did, however, then Orion killed him. Simple as. I'm sure you know of the prophecy that Orion would kill his father, right?

As for the fights with Superman.....lol. I'm sure someone from the house of El would educate you properly, as they have the scans (Abhi, in particular, will fly to his rescue).

Lol your excuse is that the plot called for it, is that really the only argument you have? All fights invovle plot, how do you have a book without the story?

http://i.imgur.com/T18s1M7.jpg

sends superman flying with astro force.

http://i.imgur.com/3h6jeDr.jpg

He of course has knocked out superman before, it was a younger superman but it is still an impressive feat.

http://i.imgur.com/z8LiTuK.jpg

As shown in the scan before he tanks a hit from superman.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/1486546-superman_vs_orion.jpg

It is stated that him and superman are dead even on power level.

orions got this.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Typically Thor is portrayed as pretty slow, but I find it hard to believe that if Thor is going multiple times the speed of light, that he's just being pulled along with no perception of where he is. Just blinded by how fast he's going lol.

It does not matter what you believe the scans show that his combat speed is lacking, he has a few decent feats but they are really old, recently he has always been portrayed as slow.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/922/jla23pg13.th.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9945/jla23pg14.th.jpg

Survives a giant blast from starro

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupBatGen3-009-13.jpg
Orion and darkseid hit eachother so hard they destroy the atmosphere of apocalypse.....this might not be canon

i will be back to debate later i have class.

Originally posted by thingy150
Flying has nothing to do with combat speed, orion has the combat speed to keep up with superman.....thor cant even keep up with wolverine or spiderman

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44803.jpg

The few feats thor has of reaction time are very old, now his reaction time has severely diminished.

Orion has this fight in the bag, he fights smarter and uses all of his tools, thor charges into battle and tries to brawl he does not use mjolnir well enough to beat orion. Orion can deflect thor's attacks with his astro force just like he did to kalibak and darkseid. Orion is faster and has kept up with faster people not to mention the fact that he can destroy worlds and knocked out superman in one shot.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4254/orion25311.th.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3681/orion2532.th.jpg

Orion has broken apart planets.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7762/newgods0821.th.jpg

He can tank darkseids omega beams.

You do know that's Masterson Thor, right?

Also, Thor strength, and durability fts poops on Orions.

Lol...Orion isn't close to being as fast as Superman. Grundy has also fought evenly with Superman as well, doesn't mean they are comparable in speed. Using your lame arguments, then Thor has also kept up with Hyperion, Gladiator, Sentry, and Surfer, all of which has light speed react/flight. You're trolling again.

Show Orion breaking Planets because from what I've seen, he struggles with titanium.

Originally posted by thingy150
It does not matter what you believe the scans show that his combat speed is lacking, he has a few decent feats but they are really old, recently he has always been portrayed as slow.

Put your dick away scrappy lol.

He's usually slow, but he's hardly ever overwhelmed in speed. And if he cant keep up with raw speed, he finds ways to nulify the advantage.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know that's Masterson Thor, right?

Also, Thor strength, and durability fts poops on Orions.

Lol...Orion isn't close to being as fast as Superman. Grundy has also fought evenly with Superman as well, doesn't mean they are comparable in speed. Using your lame arguments, then Thor has also kept up with Hyperion, Gladiator, Sentry, and Surfer, all of which has light speed react/flight. You're trolling again.

Show Orion breaking Planets because from what I've seen, he struggles with titanium.

Lol did you seriously just say that gladiator has light speed reaction...lol he does not have any reaction time feats.

Your high showings where surfer ignored his own speed(like he always does) are countered by thor being slower than wolverine, spiderman and quicksilver.

Are you talking about when orion broke free from firestorms restraints and you left that out of your scans because you are a biased fanboy.

try harder kid.

Originally posted by thingy150
Lol did you seriously just say that gladiator has light speed reaction...lol he does not have any reaction time feats.

Your high showings where surfer ignored his own speed(like he always does) are countered by thor being slower than wolverine, spiderman and quicksilver.

Are you talking about when orion broke free from firestorms restraints and you left that out of your scans because you are a biased fanboy.

try harder kid.

"Nano seconds later".

Fighting in nano seconds...troll.

And your strength fts for Orion are getting ignore by him almost dying by fire, failing to damage Titanium and struggling to lift a thick piece of metal.

Show us Orion breaking free from being trapped by titanium (lol).

Originally posted by carver9
"Nano seconds later".

Fighting in nano seconds...troll.

And your strength fts for Orion are getting ignore by him almost dying by fire, failing to damage Titanium and struggling to lift a thick piece of metal.

Show us Orion breaking free from being trapped by titanium (lol).

Lol he broke the titanium, you are lying, you left out the scan where he breaks free to further your argument.

He never almost died by fire, barda told him not to exert himsef...thats it.

Do you seriously have to lie to debate, you are not smart enough to come up with an actual argument so you lie.

THOR IS SLOWER THAN SPIDERMAN, WOLVERINE AND QUICKSILVER

all of those are recent, none of thors decent speed feats are recent, he has devolved in speed and my scans showed that.

ALSO YOUR IMAGE DOES NOT WORK, good job
😂

Lying multiple times and calling me a troll......okay?

Carver, how can Orion be significantly weaker than Thor and yet perform so well against Superman?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Carver, how can Orion be significantly weaker than Thor and yet perform so well against Superman?

Fanboyism is going to be his answer and then he will lie and use only part of a scan taking out the context and what actually happened.

I destroyed carver in captain atom vs hulk, thanos vs hulk and now i am continuing to embarrass him(more like he embarrasses himself)

Originally posted by thingy150
Lol he broke the titanium, you are lying, you left out the scan where he breaks free to further your argument.

He never almost died by fire, barda told him not to exert himsef...thats it.

Do you seriously have to lie to debate, you are not smart enough to come up with an actual argument so you lie.

THOR IS SLOWER THAN SPIDERMAN, WOLVERINE AND QUICKSILVER

all of those are recent, none of thors decent speed feats are recent, he has devolved in speed and my scans showed that.

ALSO YOUR IMAGE DOES NOT WORK, good job
😂

My image is clearly working. Show the scan of him breaking out of his imprisonment. Shouldn't be hard for you.

Great scan Darksaint. The fire was on point. Imagine what lightning would do.

Based off strength fts, Orion shouldn't be able to scratch Thor, huh? Thor is facing someone who's faster than him but far weaker and durable. Thor stomps.

You posted a scan of MASTERSON Thor. Lol. Good job buddy.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Carver, how can Orion be significantly weaker than Thor and yet perform so well against Superman?

I think they are even in strength, durability, AND speed. I'm debating like thingy here...please stop interrupting.

😠

Originally posted by carver9
My image is clearly working. Show the scan of him breaking out of his imprisonment. Shouldn't be hard for you.

Great scan Darksaint. The fire was on point. Imagine what lightning would do.

Based off strength fts, Orion shouldn't be able to scratch Thor, huh? Thor is facing someone who's faster than him but far weaker and durable. Thor stomps.

You posted a scan of MASTERSON Thor. Lol. Good job buddy.

The fire did nothing to him she was just warning him even tho it did not effect him, he continued to burn much longer than that.

Orion has taken shots from darkseid and tanked omega beams along with tanking shots from superman.

thor got 1 shotted by savage hulk.

Orion is faster as i have shown and he can destroy planets, none of thors blows will get through his shield that blocks omega beams.

lol