Originally posted by -K-M-
Seriously you people and your low showings and taking things out of context is getting pretty ridic.Yes it's the law of averages, one low showing doesn't contradict the majority of showings.
Travel speed and reaction speed are two completly different things
Travel speed and reactive/reflex speed go hand in hand brother. If not the Flash would crash into everything while going super fast. The same goes for any other character. The rest of what you said I agree with.
Originally posted by Stoic
Travel speed and reactive/reflex speed go hand in hand brother. If not the Flash would crash into everything while going super fast. The same goes for any other character. The rest of what you said I agree with.
No they do not. Hawkman has gone light speed but he does not have light speed reflexes. Even classic Northstar stated many times they are two different things. This has been discussed in many threads and everyone agrees they are different.
Hell I even have seen carver argue that against superman before.
Originally posted by Stoic
Travel speed and reactive/reflex speed go hand in hand brother. If not the Flash would crash into everything while going super fast. The same goes for any other character. The rest of what you said I agree with.
No they do not, you are making this up because you do not have an argument. Gladiator has gone ftl but he does not have reaction time feats on par with that, he even got blitzed by hulk. Thor has been out paces by both spiderman and wolverine but has gone ftl(with mjolnir).
You assuming is not an argument and it is rather desperate.
Originally posted by -K-M-
No they do not. Hawkman has gone light speed but he does not have light speed reflexes. Even classic Northstar stated many times they are two different things. This has been discussed in many threads and everyone agrees they are different.Hell I even have seen carver argue that against superman before.
BINGO, lol at carver superman has a plethora of reaction feats.
Originally posted by thingy150
No they do not, you are making this up because you do not have an argument. Gladiator has gone ftl but he does not have reaction time feats on par with that, he even got blitzed by hulk. Thor has been out paces by both spiderman and wolverine but has gone ftl(with mjolnir).
You assuming is not an argument and it is rather desperate.
glads had a battle with hyperion that showed he had light speed reflexes. just sayin....
Originally posted by leonidas
glads had a battle with hyperion that showed he had light speed reflexes. just sayin....
Does is specifically state this on panel? Scans would be nice. Even if ue did he was still rushed by hulk has been hit by people with human reflexes(cannonball). Gladiator has some of the most inconsistent feats ever.
Also superman is faster and has better reaction time than glands and hyperion (orionbhas kept up with superman in multiple different occasions)
Gladiators feats do not change what I have shown about thor reaction time.
Originally posted by thingy150
Does is specifically state this on panel? Scans would be nice. Even if ue did he was still rushed by hulk has been hit by people with human reflexes(cannonball). Gladiator has some of the most inconsistent feats ever.Also superman is faster and has better reaction time than glands and hyperion (orionbhas kept up with superman in multiple different occasions)
Gladiators feats do not change what I have shown about thor reaction time.
I already posted the scan that everyone seen.
Originally posted by carver9
I already posted the scan that everyone seen.
1st of all your english is hilarious, second, you have disputed none of the arguments I have made and you have not even made an argument yourself.
You did what you always do, you mocked me when you did not have anything left to say. The way you argue is by deceit and ignoring the persons argument in front of you, along with that when you run out of things to make up you just mock people.
Originally posted by thingy150
1st of all your english is hilarious, second, you have disputed none of the arguments I have made and you have not even made an argument yourself.You did what you always do, you mocked me when you did not have anything left to say. The way you argue is by deceit and ignoring the persons argument in front of you, along with that when you run out of things to make up you just mock people.
Lol...your English is hilarious. The way you argue is off low showings and basing your argument off of nothing. Comicvine is your home buddy. Please go back.
It's like Damborgson said, Thor has other abilities in his arsenal to bring to bear for what he may lack. he has always been able to rise to the challenge. Reflex speed/reaction speed is just one thing. Orion does not have TP or precognitive abilities that will allow for him to go completely untouched by a character of Thor's stature. This is Thor that we're debating not the Thing.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...your English is hilarious. The way you argue is off low showings and basing your argument off of nothing. Comicvine is your home buddy. Please go back.
Actually I showed multiple scans that agreed with each other, just because in acactuallity their has slow combat speed does not mean those are low showings. I have posted a plethora of orion scans including him being able to destroy planets and him knocking out superman. Orion is very versatile he can phase through objects, can destroy things on a sub atomic lvl, has force fields that can withstand omega beams and much more that I have shown.
Originally posted by thingy150
Actually I showed multiple scans that agreed with each other, just because in acactuallity their has slow combat speed does not mean those are low showings. I have posted a plethora of orion scans including him being able to destroy planets and him knocking out superman. Orion is very versatile he can phase through objects, can destroy things on a sub atomic lvl, has force fields that can withstand omega beams and much more that I have shown.
Correct, and most people understand that Thor is not Orion, but he does have the ability to destroy planets, and shield himself from extremely powerful attacks on the level of Darkseid's OE blasts. There are things that Orion can do that Thor can not do, but the same thing can be said of Thor as well. He can control the weather with or without the hammer. I think that Orion would be more powerful if he used Thor's hammer than he is when he uses the mother box. He has more abilities than i mentioned but i'm just saying.
Originally posted by Stoic
Correct, and most people understand that Thor is not Orion, but he does have the ability to destroy planets, and shield himself from extremely powerful attacks on the level of Darkseid's OE blasts. There are things that Orion can do that Thor can not do, but the same thing can be said of Thor as well. He can control the weather with or without the hammer. I think that Orion would be more powerful if he used Thor's hammer than he is when he uses the mother box. He has more abilities than i mentioned but i'm just saying.
Exactly but thor does not use his powers very often he charges into battles ready to brawl and never uses his full versatility, when he does this against orion(a person who uses all of his abilities) he will get overwhelmed, orion is a smarter fighter in that he actually uses the advantages he has.
Originally posted by carver9
Wait, when has Orion destroyed planets. Scans.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Orion/orionvsblackracer.jpg
I thought i would post this scan to where orion is chasing and reacting to mr miracle who has darkseid and metrons false blakc racer equipment which goes ftl.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/922/jla23pg13.th.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9945/jla23pg14.th.jpg
SURVIVES HUGE BLAST FROM STARRO
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35217/1490578-actioncomics586p11.jpg
FOUND IT!!! it states his astro force can destroy worlds and he has destoryed part of apokolips while fighting darkseid along with breaking the surface of new genisis(i posted both these scans on a previous page)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/83382/4132288-orion+2.jpg
New 52 orion kicked the absolute sh*t out of hal jordan more than once, just thought i would add that.
Thor is no slouch but i feel that orion will use his weapons more wisely than thor, orion is also faster and has game changing power in his astro force.
Originally posted by thingy150
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Orion/orionvsblackracer.jpgI thought i would post this scan to where orion is chasing and reacting to mr miracle who has darkseid and metrons false blakc racer equipment which goes ftl.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/922/jla23pg13.th.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9945/jla23pg14.th.jpgSURVIVES HUGE BLAST FROM STARRO
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35217/1490578-actioncomics586p11.jpg
FOUND IT!!! it states his astro force can destroy worlds and he has destoryed part of apokolips while fighting darkseid along with breaking the surface of new genisis(i posted both these scans on a previous page)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/83382/4132288-orion+2.jpg
New 52 orion kicked the absolute sh*t out of hal jordan more than once, just thought i would add that.
Thor is no slouch but i feel that orion will use his weapons more wisely than thor, orion is also faster and has game changing power in his astro force.
Lol...your speed fts isn't that great. Also, so you have statements of Orion being capable of destroying planets?
Does that mean Cyclops can break a planet in half as well?
Let me know.
