Is God the epitome of both good and evil?

Originally posted by Star428
I seriously doubt he's the devil himself because I doubt Satan would lower himself to posting on a message board where mostly geeks congregate. Plus, his time on this earth is nearing an end (and he knows it) so he is probably busy doing better things with what little time he has left before he (and the rest of the fallen angels/demons)is locked in the bottomless pit for a thousand years and completely removed from God's presence. Though I do think that the OP may be a willing agent of Satan considering all the deceitful stuff he posts on an almost daily basis.

He is def a an agent of Satan and Satan lives in him. The deceit that comes from his mouth is utterly inconceivable to think and act the way he does. He flat out lies about what the Bible says.

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. God has no evil in Him at all. He is only good. Once again, the OP posts lies about the almighty.

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"For the Lord is good; his steadfast love endures for ever, and his faithfulness to all generations."
Psalms 100:5

"Certainly, God will never do anything evil, and the Almighty will never pervert justice."
Job 34:12

Originally posted by dyajeep
Jesus would never say that... don't drag Him with your stupid reasoning... this is what Jesus said in the Bible:

"Jesus answered them, [b]Is it not written in your law, I said, you are gods?
If he called them gods to whom the word of God came (and scripture cannot be broken),"
John 10:34-35

Jesus said that "you" are gods... the "you" there are those people whom the word of God came... Jesus quoted this in the book of Psalms:

"I said, You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High."
Psalms 82:6

the "gods" there are the children of God, people whom the word of God came...

and Jesus Himself pointed where God the Father is:

"Pray then like this: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name."
Matthew 6:9

"When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven and said, Father, the hour has come; glorify thy Son that the Son may glorify thee,"
John 17:1

God the Father is in heaven... [/B]

Self glorification all the way.

What an egotistical prick. That is why I asked why he does not defend his garbage name.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. God has no evil in Him at all. He is only good. Once again, the OP posts lies about the almighty.

Less complaint and more thought please.

Was God not all there was in the beginning?
Yes he was.

So where did evil come from if not your God?

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Truth, I actually think the OP is Lucifer. I have never seen such deception in all my life.

GIA: COME AND GET ME BOY!

What deception?

Regards
DL

Originally posted by dyajeep
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"For [b]the Lord is good; his steadfast love endures for ever, and his faithfulness to all generations."
Psalms 100:5

"Certainly, God will never do anything evil, and the Almighty will never pervert justice."
Job 34:12 [/B]

That is a lie.

Is God a just judge?

This speaks of Jesus.
He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

The above quote shows this as God’s first actual judgement and shows his setting and accepting a bribe of a human sacrifice to corrupt or alter his justice and judgement.

Justice usually states that only the punishment of the guilty is acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent.

God’s corruption of this usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.

If you elect your judges in your country, would you vote God in as a fair and just judge knowing that he can be bribed?

Is God a just judge?

Regards
DL

you don't understand what you're talking about:

Originally posted by Greatest I am
As Jesus said. Have you forgotten that you are a God?

Originally posted by dyajeep
Jesus would never say that... don't drag Him with your stupid reasoning... this is what Jesus said in the Bible:

"Jesus answered them, [b]Is it not written in your law, I said, you are gods?
If he called them gods to whom the word of God came (and scripture cannot be broken),"
John 10:34-35

Jesus said that "you" are gods... the "you" there are those people whom the word of God came... Jesus quoted this in the book of Psalms:

"I said, You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High."
Psalms 82:6

the "gods" there are the children of God, people whom the word of God came...[/B]

and now, you're saying:

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Self glorification all the way.

What an egotistical prick. That is why I asked why he does not defend his garbage name.

Regards
DL

if you believe that the "I am" is you as an individual, then you're the one who's an egotistical prick, pal...

Originally posted by Greatest I am
That is a lie.

Is God a just judge?

This speaks of Jesus.
He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

The above quote shows this as God’s first actual judgement and shows his setting and accepting a bribe of a human sacrifice to corrupt or alter his justice and judgement.

Justice usually states that only the punishment of the guilty is acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent.

God’s corruption of this usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.

If you elect your judges in your country, would you vote God in as a fair and just judge knowing that he can be bribed?

Is God a just judge?

Regards
DL

"For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the terrible God, who is not partial and takes no bribe."
Deuteronomy 10:17

your hated on the God of the Bible is getting pretty annoying... you're accusing Him of something He is not... your only basis is your twisted interpretation of the Bible...

Evil is the absence of good.

Originally posted by God
Evil is the absence of good.

Then how could Eva Braun have loved Hitler? Evil and good can and do exist together.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Then how could Eva Braun have loved Hitler? Evil and good can and do exist together.

You chose a weird example. Is not as if Hitler was literaly always evil, he was a vegetarian and wanted to keep people from smoking.

Originally posted by Bentley
You chose a weird example. Is not as if Hitler was literaly always evil, he was a vegetarian and wanted to keep people from smoking.

He was both good and evil. If evil is the absence of good then there would be no good in Hitler, when compared to the evil that he manifested onto the world.

Did not she was forced to marry?

Originally posted by God
Did not she was forced to marry?

Please provide proof.

In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, but we knew him not.

John 1 King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

The idea that the Bible states "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" could have one or two meanings. We know that the Word was Jesus the Christ that was to become flesh and live among people. But then the Bible clearly states that the Word was with God, and the Word was God (Not a God, but God itself). So we are left with the knowledge that Jesus/The Word was one with God, that Jesus the Christ was God. Or the Word/Jesus the Christ and God were two separate entities. I know what I believe.

Now there is something interesting in the next verses.

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

The Bible never gives a solid statement on just who or how many were actually in his kingdom at the very beginning. It clearly states "LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE"

Somehow my post was cut off. This is the full post.

In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, but we knew him not.

John 1 King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

The idea that the Bible states "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" could have one or two meanings. We know that the Word was Jesus the Christ that was to become flesh and live among people. But then the Bible clearly states that the Word was with God, and the Word was God (Not a God, but God itself). So we are left with the knowledge that Jesus/The Word was one with God, that Jesus the Christ was God. Or the Word/Jesus the Christ and God were two separate entities. I know what I believe.

Now there is something interesting in the next verses.

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

The Bible never gives a solid statement on just who or how many were actually in God's kingdom at the very beginning. It clearly states "LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE". The words our, and us tells us that there were more than just one celestial being at that moment living or existing in the Kingdom of God.

The Bible clearly states that God has nothing to do with the evil that is in this world Job 34:12

The Bible clearly states that God is not partial, and does not take bribes. Job 34:12

To add strength to the verse located in Job 34:12 we only need to look at 1 Samuel 15:21-23 21" But the people took some of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the choicest of the things devoted to destruction, to sacrifice to the LORD your God at Gilgal." 22 Samuel said, "Has the LORD as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams. 23 "For rebellion is as the sin of divination, And insubordination is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, He has also rejected you from being king."

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John 14:23
Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.

You do not have to be the Devil, to be his vessel or Anti-Christ. The One Unforgivable Sin is Blasphemy.

“I promise you that any of the sinful things you say or do can be forgiven, no matter how terrible those things are. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven. That sin will be held against you forever.” — Mark 3:28-29

Originally posted by Stoic
...We know that the Word was Jesus the Christ...

This is what you believe. There is no proof that the people who wrote Genesis where talking about Jesus.

There are 3 members (and 3 only) that make-up the godhead. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God is actually the 3 of them combined. There is only one god. By themselves, none of them are God. When the bible states "Let us make man in our image" the "us" and "our" are referring to the 3 members of the godhead which make-up the one true god.

Originally posted by Star428
There are 3 members (and 3 only) that make-up the godhead. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God is actually the 3 of them combined. There is only one god. By themselves, none of them are God. When the bible states "Let [b]us make man in our image" the "us" and "our" are referring to the 3 members of the godhead which make-up the one true god. [/B]

What did Jesus say to Philip about the Father? The Bible says that the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Not that the Word was a God that was with God. Jesus said that I will pray to the Father, and he will send a comforter in my name. The Comforter was the Holy Spirit. What was the Comforter's name? In whose name was the Comforter sent? There is certainly a relationship between the Father, and the Son (Flesh of God). But, what happens when the Son took authority and rebuked evil spirits by casting them out? What happened when the Son told the Pharisees that if they should destroy his temple that he would raise it up in 3 days? Then later it goes on to say that God raised Jesus in 3 days. Who was the Son when he took authority, and was not in prayer? The Son was one with the Father according to scripture. Again what was the Comforter's name?

Imagine this. You are walking along a stretch of highway with your wife. you both know that you have to walk another 300 miles to arrive at your destination. Your wife begins to fuss, and then you speak to her. You tell her that I am going to ask my Father to give me his truck... you turn your head and blink a few times, and then you look back at your wife, and say, guess what? My Father will give us his truck. What the heck am I getting at?

Pay attention. Jesus said; I will pray to the Father, and he will send a Comforter (Holy Spirit) in my name. Pay close attention to the conversation between the man, and his wife concerning the truck of his father. The first thing that you need to ask yourself is this. When did the man speak to his father, and how was he so sure that his father was going to give him his truck?

John 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever.

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

John 16:7
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This is what you believe. There is no proof that the people who wrote Genesis where talking about Jesus.

well for starters, the Hebrew word 'elohiym (H430) is plural... and 'elohiym was the word used in Genesis 1:26... 'elohiym is the plural form of 'elowahh (H433)... the author of Genesis is Moses, and Biblically, he and Jesus have already met...

Originally posted by dyajeep
you don't understand what you're talking about:

and now, you're saying:

if you believe that the "I am" is you as an individual, then you're the one who's an egotistical prick, pal...

"For [b]the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the terrible God, who is not partial and takes no bribe."
Deuteronomy 10:17

your hated on the God of the Bible is getting pretty annoying... you're accusing Him of something He is not... your only basis is your twisted interpretation of the Bible... [/B]

And I see that you hypocritically wish to divert to my dislike of the poor judge you follow to debate on his setting and accepting a bribe to corrupt his judgement.

You are a pathetic apologist who runs from moral debates while recognizing the poor morals you have embraced.

Regards
DL