WBH runs the DC gauntlet

Started by Star4289 pages

Originally posted by Stoic
Okay would the Hulk just be standing there scratching his ass while she flies towards him in an attempt to cut his head off, or would he also be able to go on the offensive?

You know the planet+ destroying feat that happened during his fight with Betty? Did you realize that most of the damage came from the collision? When they jumped towards each other they were moving fast as hell.

We may need a mathematician to calculate the rate of speed that two object of his size and weight had to be moving to displace that much real estate. In other words Wonder Woman would fail, and likely die from colliding with a Hulk that is assumed to also be able to go on the attack like Wonder Woman has the ability. She should die instantly.

Duh...Of course, Hulk can go on offensive. Please don't ask silly questions like that. The question is: Is he fast enough to keep up with Diana? If her speed is way above his she can easily cut his head off before he can do a damn thing about it.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying WW beats him but I'm just asking a question. Is his speed anywhere near her level? Please don't come back with some kind of ridiculous inflammatory response like you just did.

Red She Hulk cut Hulk arm all the way through and it healed back instantly before it even fell off. The slice vanished as soon as the knife went through. His healing factor was near instantaneous.

None of them is lasting against this Hulk. World Breaker kills them.

Trident to Hulks head and or body is going to result in an instant exile.

Originally posted by Star428
Duh...Of course, Hulk can go on offensive. Please don't ask silly questions like that. The question is: Is he fast enough to keep up with Diana? If her speed is way above his she can easily cut his head off before he can do a damn thing about it.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying WW beats him but I'm just asking a question. Is his speed anywhere near her level? Please don't come back with some kind of ridiculous inflammatory response like you just did.

Did you read or understand what I said to you? She take off at him, he jumps towards her at an incredible rate of speed. He and Betty attained enough speed that when they collided with each other they destroyed more than just one planet. How fast do you think that he was going. Let's not pretend like you theory would go off without a hitch, because he has a very good chance of impacting her before she ever cuts his head off. The sword may only manage to skewer his torso, and he may still actually hit her. These are things that happen when two characters take the offensive at the same time, and let's not pretend like WB Hulk jumped super slow. Think about it first, before you solidify your stance of this. That's all that I'm saying.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Trident to Hulks head and or body is going to result in an instant exile.

Thunder clap will make sure that such a thing would never happen.

Originally posted by Stoic
Also that theory of yours is unproven.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/102593/2656536-003.jpg

His future self shows him how to use the time stream(this is one of many scans)

He also used this on the flash to move faster than him he slowed down time.

You have not even come up with a theory all you have done is say wbh wins without stating reasons.

You continue to show me every post you make in every thread that you know nothing about DC.

Originally posted by Stoic
Did you read or understand what I said to you? She take off at him, he jumps towards her at an incredible rate of speed. He and Betty attained enough speed that when they collided with each other they destroyed more than just one planet. How fast do you think that he was going. Let's not pretend like you theory would go off without a hitch, because he has a very good chance of impacting her before she ever cuts his head off. The sword may only manage to skewer his torso, and he may still actually hit her. These are things that happen when two characters take the offensive at the same time, and let's not pretend like WB Hulk jumped super slow. Think about it first, before you solidify your stance of this. That's all that I'm saying.

No, I didn't read the rest of it after the first sentence or two. When people reply to me with inflammatory responses like you did with your silly question in your last post I tend not to read anything further. Perhaps you should keep that in mind in the future before you make another ridiculous inflammatory statement or question to me like you did in previous post.

It seems like with your example you're referring to travel speed NOT combat reflexes which is what matters here. So, you don't have scans that show him being on her level in combat speed NOT travel speed? If not, then I'm going with WW and her sword here.

Even if he gets past Diana I doubt he'll get past Clark anyway so whatever.

Originally posted by thingy150
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/102593/2656536-003.jpg

His future self shows him how to use the time stream(this is one of many scans)

He also used this on the flash to move faster than him he slowed down time.

You have not even come up with a theory all you have done is say wbh wins without stating reasons.

You continue to show me every post you make in every thread that you know nothing about DC.

I'm saying that the theory of traveling back in time to kill someone may not actually effect effect the person in the present. You're taking you're theory from one comic, and playing it off as fact. I can do that as well. In Hulk Future Imperfect the Merged Hulk threatens Maestro, and tells him that he would just kill himself, and Maestro would cease to exist. Maestro tells him to go ahead, but that he assured him that he would be the only one taking a dirt nap. This has nothing to do with my knowledge of DC characters and more to the tune of contesting an unproven theory. If he goes back, and kills Banner, but it has no effect on The Green Scar, he would self BFR himself and lose. Now why is my theory any less viable than yours?

Originally posted by carver9
Red She Hulk cut Hulk arm all the way through and it healed back instantly before it even fell off. The slice vanished as soon as the knife went through. His healing factor was near instantaneous.

None of them is lasting against this Hulk. World Breaker kills them.

Does red she hulk's sword cut through atoms.........no.....okay

You still have not stated how hulk beats atom, who i have previously shown can not be hurt physically.

How does he beat post crisis kyle rayner?

And how does he beat the much faster superman who can bfr him?

Originally posted by Star428
No, I didn't read the rest of it after the first sentence or two. When people reply to me with inflammatory responses like you did with your silly question in your last post I tend not to read anything further. Perhaps you should keep that in mind in the future before you make another ridiculous inflammatory statement or question to me like you did in previous post.

It seems like with your example you're referring to travel speed NOT combat reflexes which is what matters here. So, you don't have scans that show him being on her level in combat speed NOT travel speed? If not, then I'm going with WW and her sword here.

Even if he gets past Diana I doubt he'll get past Clark anyway so whatever.

Maybe you got offended too easily. Your first statement came across as very one sided to me, and with little perspective on how a fight actually goes. You basically seemed to assume that her attack would work, while not taking into consideration that the Hulk is not a static target, and could actually go on the offense as well. This was something that I felt that I needed to bring to your attention. Perhaps I could have said it another way, but I didn't. However it wasn't meant to raise you blood pressure if it did.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm saying that the theory of traveling back in time to kill someone may not actually effect effect the person in the present. You're taking you're theory from one comic, and playing it off as fact. I can do that as well. In Hulk Future Imperfect the Merged Hulk threatens Maestro, and tells him that he would just kill himself, and Maestro would cease to exist. Maestro tells him to go ahead, but that he assured him that he would be the only one taking a dirt nap. This has nothing to do with my knowledge of DC characters and more to the tune of contesting an unproven theory. If he goes back, and kills Banner, but it has no effect on The Green Scar, he would self BFR himself and lose. Now why is my theory any less viable than yours?

Are you joking? IF HE GOES BACK AND KILLS BANNER HULK WILL HAVE NEVER EXISTED.

DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS? HOW CAN SOMEONE CONTINUE TO EXIST WITHOUT EVER EXISTING?

ALSO DON'T TRY AND SAY THAT ATOM CANNOT TRAVEL BACK IN TIME AND KILL HIM BECAUSE THEY ARE FROM SEPARATE UNIVERSES, ATOM HAS ALREADY TRAVELED TO DIFFERENT UNIVERSES.

HE CANT SELF BFR HIMSELF BECAUSE IT NEVER STATES NO BFR, HE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO FIGHT AT A MOMENTS NOTICE BY TRAVELING BACK.

THE REASON BFR WORKS ON THE HULK IS BECAUSE HE CANT COME BACK TO THE BATTLE, WHEREAS ATOM CAN GO BACK ANY TIME HE WANTS.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thunder clap will make sure that such a thing would never happen.

Couldn't he just throw it?

stoic is a troll and has admitted to being a troll, he never has an argument and never has scans.

Carver: Getting your arm cut off is nowhere near the same thing as getting your head cut off. If Hulk got his head cut off he should die instantly. Regeneration wouldn't do him any good.

Captain Atom cannot change the past:

'We cannot physically change any past event'

Originally posted by thingy150
Are you joking? IF HE GOES BACK AND KILLS BANNER HULK WILL HAVE NEVER EXISTED.

DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS? HOW CAN SOMEONE CONTINUE TO EXIST WITHOUT EVER EXISTING?

ALSO DON'T TRY AND SAY THAT ATOM CANNOT TRAVEL BACK IN TIME AND KILL HIM BECAUSE THEY ARE FROM SEPARATE UNIVERSES, ATOM HAS ALREADY TRAVELED TO DIFFERENT UNIVERSES.

HE CANT SELF BFR HIMSELF BECAUSE IT NEVER STATES NO BFR, HE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO FIGHT AT A MOMENTS NOTICE BY TRAVELING BACK.

THE REASON BFR WORKS ON THE HULK IS BECAUSE HE CANT COME BACK TO THE BATTLE, WHEREAS ATOM CAN GO BACK ANY TIME HE WANTS.

That's a theory that can not be proven. In one comic, a science fiction writer believes that it would work without proof, and on the other hand another science fiction writer says that it would not work. neither know for sure, and thus it can be argued that it may not work, because it has never been fully proven that it would work. The Merged Hulk is a younger Maestro, and like I said Maestro assured him that if he took his own life that he would have been the only one to die. You don't like it when your theories are contested, but that's on you. Go with something more concrete and proven.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Captain Atom cannot change the past:

'We cannot physically change any past event'

Yes he can, he can travel back in time and change things but he is not supposed to, that is what the scan means, the butterfly effect is why he is telling him not to, it is not that he cannot its that it would change so much.

Originally posted by thingy150
Yes he can, he can travel back in time and change things but he is not supposed to, that is what the scan means, the butterfly effect is why he is telling him not to, it is not that he cannot its that it would change so much.

So....CIP. As in, in character, he wouldn't dare do it. I mean, nobody here says that Superman lobotomises people at the start of the bell, or Flash rips their hearts out at lightspeed...

Originally posted by Board Walker
Couldn't he just throw it?

He could, but then there may be a chance that it misses, or that the Hulk catches it. He has caught arrows fired at him, and long range missiles that travel pretty fast.

Originally posted by Stoic
That's a theory that can not be proven. In one comic, a science fiction writer believes that it would work without proof, and on the other hand another science fiction writer says that it would not work. neither know for sure, and thus it can be argued that it may not work, because it has never been fully proven that it would work. The Merged Hulk is a younger Maestro, and like I said Maestro assured him that if he took his own life that he would have been the only one to die. You don't like it when your theories are contested, but that's on you. Go with something more concrete and proven.

If he can travel in time to a point where hulk has not existed yet and kills banner, hulk would never exist. Do you really not understand how time travel works? It would work but it would let off a string of event and change a bunch of things, the butterfly effect. It would still work.

Atom has also shown to be able to be able to completely change the molecules of things.

HOW DOES HULK BEAT HIM? YOU HAVE STILL NOT GIVEN AN ANSWER AS TO HOW HULK BEATS ANYONE ON THIS LIST.