Originally posted by carver9
The same way Grundy, Doomsday, Mongul, The General, Despero, and Titus touched him. Does that answer your question?
Not even close, this is new 52 superman fighting at the best of his abilities. No plot to let people hit him in this thread. Give me actual hulk speed feats, oh wait you cant.
Originally posted by thingy150
Not even close, this is new 52 superman fighting at the best of his abilities. No plot to let people hit him in this thread. Give me actual hulk speed feats, oh wait you cant.
So you turned "fighting in character" off in this thread? I don't see it in the OP and we can't change the rules this late in the thread. Oh wait, the only person that don't fight to the best of their abilities is Thor and Hulk. Remember, Thor only swing his hammer.
Lol...why would I post a scan you'll ignore? 😂
Originally posted by thingy150
Not even close, this is new 52 superman fighting at the best of his abilities. No plot to let people hit him in this thread. Give me actual hulk speed feats, oh wait you cant.
If I were you, I'd just ignore Carver when it comes to any Hulk or Superman thread. That's what I do most of the time. His obvious blind bias for Hulk and hatred for Superman is well known. It's funny how he ignores the fact that this is not a comic but a forum fight which means no PIS or CIS. No CIS or PIS means characters that shouldn't ever be able to lay a hand on Superman like those character he mentioned won't except for perhaps Doomsday who does have a measure of superspeed unlike Hulk.
Originally posted by Star428
If I were you, I'd just ignore Carver when it comes to any Hulk or Superman thread. That's what I do most of the time. His obvious blind bias for Hulk and hatred for Superman is well known. It's funny how he ignores the fact that this is not a comic but a forum fight which means no PIS or CIS. No CIS or PIS means characters that shouldn't ever be able to lay a hand on Superman like those character he mentioned won't except for perhaps Doomsday who does have a measure of superspeed unlike Hulk.
Bring this same mindset in the Surfer vs Superman thread. Are you ready?
Originally posted by Star428
If I were you, I'd just ignore Carver when it comes to any Hulk or Superman thread. That's what I do most of the time. His obvious blind bias for Hulk and hatred for Superman is well known. It's funny how he ignores the fact that this is not a comic but a forum fight which means no PIS or CIS. No CIS or PIS means characters that shouldn't ever be able to lay a hand on Superman like those character he mentioned won't except for perhaps Doomsday who does have a measure of superspeed unlike Hulk.
CIS is always on PIS is off. Superman does not think like the Joker. He has fought characters consistently the same way before you or I were even born, and continues to do the same in the present. Let's not talk about CIS because if Banner were written correctly he would literally design toys like Thanos does, and exploit the hell out of most of the characters that he faces. He doesn't do this, because it's out of character for him. If I were Superman I'd attempt to quickly grab any non flyer, and toss him to the moon, but he rarely does this. just look at his fights with Solomon Grundy, Subjekt 17, Mongul, Darkseid... etc.
fact remains, Superman is much faster than Hulk and just as strong, along with all the other powers he possesses like flight and heat vision, he's way over Hulks level of fighting capacity and if you want to throw CIS into it, Superman is more than durable to take a cpl hits from Hulk and realize he has to turn it up a notch and DCnU Superman is a bit o a dick, he won't hold back once he realizes Hulk can take the punishment, once that happens its over for Hulk, any Hulk.
Originally posted by Star428
If I were you, I'd just ignore Carver when it comes to any Hulk or Superman thread. That's what I do most of the time. His obvious blind bias for Hulk and hatred for Superman is well known. It's funny how he ignores the fact that this is not a comic but a forum fight which means no PIS or CIS. No CIS or PIS means characters that shouldn't ever be able to lay a hand on Superman like those character he mentioned won't except for perhaps Doomsday who does have a measure of superspeed unlike Hulk.
👆 I agree with everything you said.
Originally posted by relentless1
fact remains, Superman is much faster than Hulk and just as strong, along with all the other powers he possesses like flight and heat vision, he's way over Hulks level of fighting capacity and if you want to throw CIS into it, Superman is more than durable to take a cpl hits from Hulk and realize he has to turn it up a notch and DCnU Superman is a bit o a dick, he won't hold back once he realizes Hulk can take the punishment, once that happens its over for Hulk, any Hulk.
The only problem with that train of thought is that the Hulk in this thread's notches are already turned up. A non amplified Superman is the one that would have to turn the notches up, and since this isn't how he usually acts in the beginning of battle, he wouldn't be expecting that this version of the Hulk had a no taking prisoners type of attitude. World Breaker Hulk is a murderer by proxy.
Originally posted by thingy150
Surfer is so dangerous by power set and feats of speed/reaction time, i hate how marvel always lets people hit him even tho his blitz style and reaction time should allow him to not be hit.
Is this where you took one character into consideration, and left the ones that you don't think are good for much out in the cold?
Originally posted by Stoic
The only problem with that train of thought is that the Hulk in this thread's notches are already turned up. A non amplified Superman is the one that would have to turn the notches up, and since this isn't how he usually acts in the beginning of battle, he wouldn't be expecting that this version of the Hulk had a no taking prisoners type of attitude. World Breaker Hulk is a murderer by proxy.Is this where you took one character into consideration, and left the ones that you don't think are good for much out in the cold?
What are you even talking about?
Btw you do not need a comma before and in your sentence, in some situations it is okay but you misused it.
Originally posted by relentless1
fact remains, Superman is much faster than Hulk and just as strong, along with all the other powers he possesses like flight and heat vision, he's way over Hulks level of fighting capacity and if you want to throw CIS into it, Superman is more than durable to take a cpl hits from Hulk and realize he has to turn it up a notch and DCnU Superman is a bit o a dick, he won't hold back once he realizes Hulk can take the punishment, once that happens its over for Hulk, any Hulk.
Disagree with all of this. Hulk has literally been near unbeatable for the past 10 plus yrs. You can think Superman could beat Hulk but that doesn't mean it's true. Your opinion buddy.
Originally posted by thingy150
Surfer is so dangerous by power set and feats of speed/reaction time, i hate how marvel always lets people hit him even tho his blitz style and reaction time should allow him to not be hit.
And people like Superman and Thor could still pull some wins against him because we do not debate powerset here.
Originally posted by thingy150
What are you even talking about?Btw you do not need a comma before and in your sentence, in some situations it is okay but you misused it.
For somone claiming to be so smart, you appear to need people to explain an awful lot to you. Being pedantic always tends to turn around and bite you in the ass BTW. Better watch out for those typos in the future. Someone is bound to come behind you, and wipe your ass for you.
Oh, and not that it has anything to do with it, but my punctuation is fine.
Originally posted by carver9
And people like Superman and Thor could still pull some wins against him because we do not debate powerset here.
We do not debate off of PIS here, surfer being able to be touched is utter pis and superman without PIS will not be touched by the hulk.
This is not a comic book, we are debating comic characters, what should be taken into consideration are personality and power sets, not PIS.
Superman is simply too fast and his reaction time is too great for the hulk, no amount of you wanting to have a PIS and CIS filled battle will change that.
Originally posted by thingy150
We do not debate off of PIS here, surfer being able to be touched is utter pis and superman without PIS will not be touched by the hulk.This is not a comic book, we are debating comic characters, what should be taken into consideration are personality and power sets, not PIS.
Superman is simply too fast and his reaction time is too great for the hulk, no amount of you wanting to have a PIS and CIS filled battle will change that.
So Surfer, Firestorm, Martian Manhunter, and Hal can beat Superman 10/10?