Originally posted by abhilegend
So? Doomsday would beat the shit out of Surfer and Runner together if they tried such tactics against him.
Yea your prolly right. After reading these old scans more I realize how foolish they both are. Runner was sitting there trolling him, and he just took it and had his board taken from him.
I don't see what Runner did to Surfer to justify him beating a being astronomically stronger than him, and has instant healing factor, cutting weapons, instant adaptive abilities, grade A speed, etc.
HP DD clears.
No one one this list can even harm him with any blasts, and not do much physically to him.
Originally posted by h1a8
I don't see what Runner did to Surfer to justify him beating a being astronomically stronger than him, and has instant healing factor, cutting weapons, instant adaptive abilities, grade A speed, etc.HP DD clears.
No one one this list can even harm him with any blasts, and not do much physically to him.
But what about the Runner being astronomically faster than HP DD? I mean aren't you always arguing speed?
I see there are atleast 5 of you that think that HP Doomsday can beat Ego...
Can HP Doomsday really beat a being that can casually do this?
Originally posted by StoicBut he's not. As far as traveling speed (not combat speed) runner is stated in bios to travel only a few times faster than light. In comics, he had no quantifiable speed feats without the gem. So we must assume light speed or slightly faster.
But what about the Runner being astronomically faster than HP DD? I mean aren't you always arguing speed?
Anyway, that's not combat speed. DD can attack faster than Superman can respond to. He can cover a mile before DS can turn around and react.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderHp DD resisted the full power of the OE. At less than half power, the OE proved astronomically more powerful than Superman himself. So, blasts aren't doing anything to him.
I see there are atleast 5 of you that think that HP Doomsday can beat [b]Ego...Can HP Doomsday really beat a being that can casually do this?
bill has beaten ego. non-canon glads totally him up. thor's done very well against ego as well. dd was EASILY killing guardians and obliterated scores of GL's. grandmaster would be the biggest challenge i think. runner couldn't beat dd the same way he beat ss. had he gone on to actually beat thanos, that would have been a huge feather. he's got a lot of power, but i've personally always placed most of the elders on the same tier as the guardians. ego could be above but he is a little inconsistent. grandmaster is the smartest and has the best on panel displays of power. i think dd could kill him, but GM has some reality warping powers that would be interesting to see against dd. i could see him clearing this. not sure how many times out of 10 i could see it happening though but i'd say more than half. but i'm a known lover of dd some will say, so, take the opinion and do with it as you will. 🙂
Ego has at times been a big time jobber; thank goodness that forum fights exclude PIS...
Unless of course if some of you actually want to argue that Ego is a sub High Herald; which is utterly ridiculous...
Ego is a High Powered Cosmic and has stood up to a non-weakened Galactus...
Yes, Bill has beaten Ego, but would absolutely fail to do so under forum conditions...
I firmly believe HP Doomsday would fail as well; unless of course someone wants to argue that HP Doomsday has the power to stand up to Galactus as Ego did...
Grandmaster has major Time Manipulation powers; sans PIS, Grandmaster could use this power to defeat Doomsday a hundred different ways..
And I must remind everyone that in order to even get to Grandmaster, he'd have to defeat Gardener, Champion, Collector, and Runner with no rest or recovery time inbetween fights...as per the OP.
That stands for the Ego fight as well (so add Grandmaster to the list of those HP Doomsday whould have to beat with no rest or recovery time inbetween) which makes the prospect of HP beating him even more ridiculous...
lol if you thought it such a mismatch why'd you put it in? and when ego took it to galactus, g was stupidly weak, so weak, what did he do? ran to thor for thor's help. 🙂 and since then ego has been shown to be well below galactus's level. ego is firmly in trans, like dd is. and no, i wouldn't call the way bill beat him pis at all. he just fought smart. would i guarantee dd beats him? no, but i'd feel pretty confident and would be nowhere close to surprised if he did. as i ALREADY said, GM would be the biggest challenge, but i really have no idea how time powers or reality warping would affect dd so that is pretty impossible to attempt to resolve. i could see GM winning by bfr. without bfr it's a lot tougher to imagine how that match up would go. do i think GM would throttle darkseid? nope. but dd did. guardians, amped superman+waverider (who is the very definition of TIME powers....) darkseid--all stomped by dd. oh, and as regards the 'no rest' clause: that's irrelevant here as dd was continually adapting and getting STRONGER through all his battles. he doesn't get 'tired'.
anyway, you can downplay the resume all you like, but you can't do so while pretending to remain objective. putting in matches that you think are 'ridiculous' btw, is tantamount to baiting......
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderHp DD resisted the full power of the OE. At less than half power, the OE proved astronomically more powerful than Superman himself. So, blasts aren't doing anything to him.
I see there are atleast 5 of you that think that HP Doomsday can beat [b]Ego...Can HP Doomsday really beat a being that can casually do this?
@leonidas
Characters typically are intentionally unable to clear the gauntlets I create; its a feat of toughness to simply progress in them...let alone finish them.
So far, I've seen no reasonable argument to suggest (nor have I seen anything from HP Doomsday himself) he is capable of beating 4 Trans Tier characters one after another, an arguable Low Skyfather (Grandmaster), and then a character that is Skyfather or greater who is Ego...
Btw, you might want to recheck the tierings here at KMC; Ego is not a Street Leveler, Meta, Herald, or Trans Tier character (there is even a notation that specifically excludes Ego from the Trans Tier)...
He is a High Powered Cosmic; given what he is capable of, him losing to Bill is absolutely PIS...
And didnt Ego take on multiple Celestials once? I dont have time to locate the scan now, but I will do so tommorrow at some point...if my memory is correct, then your argument that Ego demostrated Galactus level power only once is false.
Anyway, this thread is not a bait thread at all; its a thread designed to see how far HP Doomsday gets against the Elders; him stopping at 4 seems very reasonable...him clearing (based on his history) seems absolutely ridiculous.
Originally posted by h1a8
Hp DD resisted the full power of the OE. At less than half power, the OE proved astronomically more powerful than Superman himself. So, blasts aren't doing anything to him.
DD would rip through ego like a hot knife through butter.
Pre-Reboot, the OE was depicted as being less and less powerful over time...
Pre Crisis, it all almighty...
Post Crisis, it was gradually written down lower and lower...
So no, HP Doomsday withstanding the OE has no bearing on blasts from Ego who can casually one shot planets...
