ROTJ Vader vs Prime Revan TK Battle

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le sigh*

Good thing he didn't say ''large'' there...

Vader. He clears entire hangers of enemies with a casual force wave

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Vader. He clears entire hangers of enemies with a casual force wave

And these enemies are?

Maybe Revan.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And these enemies are?

Stormtroopers. 😂

Originally posted by WildBantha88
He clears entire hangers of enemies with a casual force wave

Hmm... Like Maul or Savage ?

Vader does alone what Maul and Savage do together, better than they do it. 😛

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Vader does alone what Maul and Savage do together, better than they do it. 😛

They did that front of two Jedi master, with breaking their force shield. So... And I am not talking about one specific occasion either.

Vader's got better feats, but I like to think Revan is more powerful, however slight.

Originally posted by Marco1907
le sigh*
Dats my thing

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Vader's got better feats, but I like to think Revan is more powerful, however slight.

Revan's feat of ragdolling Satele Shan and company is superior to any feat of Vader in combative situation, and by a big margin.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revan's feat of ragdolling Satele Shan and co. is superior to any feat of Vader.

Hardly. Now, had he effortlessly pinned them a la Sidious/Maul/Savage, that'd be one thing. But Vader's got Revan beat by feats, not to mention going toe-to-toe with Starkiller and his clone, who arguably have the best TK feats in the mythos.

Plus Revans new feat is kind of far outside of what the character has been shown being able to do. It likely he was amped

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Vader's got better feats, but I like to think Revan is more powerful, however slight.

This seems reasonable.

Originally posted by Sinious
This seems reasonable.

Naturally. It is me, after all.

Or if not more powerful than Vader in the strictest sense, certainly the more effective warrior.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Hardly. Now, had he effortlessly pinned them a la Sidious/Maul/Savage, that'd be one thing. But Vader's got Revan beat by feats, not to mention going toe-to-toe with Starkiller and his clone, who arguably have the best TK feats in the mythos.

Watch this:

This is effortless rag-dolling of some of the most powerful Force-users of the mythos.

And I am surprised that you lump Satele Shan with the likes of Darth Maul and Opress Savage, she is considerably better then both.

Vader no longer outclasses Revan in feats. In-fact, I recall Starkiller rag-dolling Vader around after injuring him by throwing an explosive towards him. Starkiller's feat of manipulating the movement of an already falling Imperial Star Destroyer remains unparalleled because no one else even bothered to attempt such a thing in galactic history with exception of Tulak Hord. The latter pulled down a large starship from space into the ground with his raw power according to Khem Val.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Plus Revans new feat is kind of far outside of what the character has been shown being able to do. It likely he was amped

Hardly.

Revan's quick dismissal of Darth Nyriss is another feat which revealed the true extent of his insane power.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Naturally. It is me, after all.

Or if not more powerful than Vader in the strictest sense, certainly the more effective warrior.

Regarding the feats, Revan kinda reached Vader with the expansion don't you think?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Watch this:

This is effortless rag-dolling of some of the most powerful Force-users of the mythos.

I've already explained this to Ant: that's an in-game mechanic and, unless it's in a cutscene, it's never been considered valid. I'd probably even be open to a quicktime event. But gameplay isn't valid.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And I am surprised that you lump Satele Shan with the likes of Darth Maul and Opress Savage, she is considerably better then both.

She's... really not.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vader no longer outclasses Revan in feats. In-fact, I recall Starkiller rag-dolling Vader around after injuring him by throwing an explosive towards him.

Sure. After a lengthy duel of attrition in which Vader was exhausted and overwhelmed.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Starkiller's feat of manipulating the movement of an already falling Imperial Star Destroyer remains unparalleled because no one else even bothered to attempt such a thing in galactic history with exception of Tulak Hord.

Proof that no one but Hord and Starkiller attempted it?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The latter pulled down a starship from space into the ground with his raw power according to Khem Val.

And when Khem Val can show me a cutscene of it happening, I'll believe it. 'Til then, I don't.

Besides which, that's not even close to Starkiller's best feat.

Originally posted by Sinious
Regarding the feats, Revan kinda reached Vader with the expansion don't you think?

As an overall combatant? He's definitely on par at least. As a telekinetic? No, Vader still has him on feats.