Originally posted by The_Tempest
I've already explained this to Ant: that's an in-game mechanic and, unless it's in a cutscene, it's never been considered valid. I'd probably even be open to a quicktime event. But gameplay isn't valid.
SWTOR is different in its presentation of scripted events then KoTOR I. This can confuse some people.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
She's... really not.
Here are some of her feats:-
- Unleashed an esoteric power which simultaneously launched 3 Sith warriors up in the air and eliminated them.
- Held Darth Malgus at bay with one hand and used the other to pull down a gigantic tree even though she was under pressure from the powerful Sith Lord. Trees of that size weigh hundred tons or more.
- Absorbed lightsaber blade with bare hands and then proceeded to dominate Darth Malgus with her powers with which she also disintegrated an enormous rocky formation as a side effect.
- Disintegrated a blastdoor with a simple touch.
- Blew apart a dozen hex droids with a single gesture, these droids are tougher then most in the mythos.
And officially stated to have prodigious powers.
Satele Shan is definitely superior to Darth Maul and Opress Savage.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Sure. After a lengthy duel of attrition in which Vader was exhausted and overwhelmed.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Proof that no one but Hord and Starkiller attempted it?
Originally posted by The_Tempest
And when Khem Val can show me a cutscene of it happening, I'll believe it. 'Til then, I don't.
But this is the best hint we have so far.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Besides which, that's not even close to Starkiller's best feat.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I haven't played this expansion yet so I will leave this matter to DarthAnt66. However, I do understand from experience that some actions during the fights in SWTOR are scripted and they don't necessarily happen in cut-scenes like in KoTOR I.SWTOR is different in its presentation of scripted events then KoTOR I. This can confuse some people.
That's all fine and dandy, but it's still gameplay and it still doesn't count. That's been a universal rule here and elsewhere for the better part of a decade and we don't make grand exceptions to accommodate Ant's boytoy. 😬
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
She is.Here are some of her feats:-
- Unleashed an esoteric power which simultaneously launched 3 Sith warriors up in the air and eliminated them.
- Held Darth Malgus at bay with one hand and used the other to pull down a gigantic tree even though she was under pressure from the powerful Sith Lord.
- Absorbed lightsaber blade with bare hands and then proceeded to dominate Darth Malgus with her powers with which she also disintegrated an enormous rocky formation.
- Disintegrated a reinforced or blastdoor with a simple touch.
- Blew apart multiple droids that were tougher then most in the mythos with a simple gesture.Officially stated to have prodigious powers.
Satele Shan is definitely superior to Darth Maul and Opress Savage.
She's definitely not. Between them, they have better feats and accolades.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
So how exactly is Vader better then Revan who have history of dominating powerful adversaries without breaking a sweat?
Vader's TK feats are better.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You provide an example.
I... don't have to? You were the one who made a definitive claim: no one other than Tulak Hord and Starkiller has ever attempted to pull down a Star Destroyer. Not only is that an exceptionally dumb argument to make because you can't possibly prove it, it's also irrelevant. Might as well say that Vitiate definitely can't be stronger than Yoda because Yoda never tried to nom nom the galaxy.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Ask BioWare.But this is the best hint we have so far.
And when there's more to it than mere hinting, I'll put stock in it. 👆
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Starkiller didn't bring down the Star Destroyer with his power, he just titled it to some extent to shift its direction. The starship was falling on its own.
As I said, it's not even his best feat.
That's been a universal rule here and elsewhere for the better part of a decade and we don't make grand exceptions to accommodate Ant's boytoy. erm
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vader no longer outclasses Revan in feats. In-fact, I recall Starkiller rag-dolling Vader around after injuring him by throwing an explosive towards him. Starkiller's feat of manipulating the movement of an already falling Imperial Star Destroyer remains unparalleled because no one else even bothered to attempt such a thing in galactic history with exception of Tulak Hord. The latter pulled down a large starship from space into the ground with his raw power according to Khem Val.
Nihilus
Originally posted by The_Tempest
That's all fine and dandy, but it's still gameplay and it still doesn't count. That's been a universal rule here and elsewhere for the better part of a decade and we don't make grand exceptions to accommodate Ant's boytoy. 😬
As an example: During confrontation with Revan on The Foundry, Revan always conjures up a protection bubble to protect himself from external attacks before teleporting himself to another location/region, ending the battle in a draw. Revan always conjures up the protection bubble in scripted manner during the play-through before teleporting himself so this development is authentic and cannot be ignored.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
She's definitely not. Between them, they have better feats and accolades.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Vader's TK feats are better.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I... don't have to? You were the one who made a definitive claim: no one other than Tulak Hord and Starkiller has ever attempted to pull down a Star Destroyer. Not only is that an exceptionally dumb argument to make because you can't possibly prove it, it's also irrelevant. Might as well say that Vitiate definitely can't be stronger than Yoda because Yoda never tried to nom nom the galaxy.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
And when there's more to it than mere hinting, I'll put stock in it. 👆
We also have example of Darth Nihilus. What you have to say about his power?
Originally posted by The_Tempest
As I said, it's not even his best feat.