Originally posted by pym-ftw
do you know the inward mirror theory?
Originally posted by abhilegend
The fact that pym is using a single feat to say that Thor is stronger says otherwise.
But the way you answer makes it seem like you think Thor's feat being superior means that he is stronger than Superman. Otherwise why would you deny a feat that is obviously superior?
You claim that he's stupid for bringing up Nasa, but he's clearly not.
The scientist who came up with the measurement for Ton and Kilo doesn't know **** all about comics either, but that doesn't mean we don't apply his science to understand which lifting feat is more impressive...
Originally posted by krisblaze
Okay, that's Pym's business.But the way you answer makes it seem like you think Thor's feat being superior means that he is stronger than Superman. Otherwise why would you deny a feat that is obviously superior?
You claim that he's stupid for bringing up Nasa, but he's clearly not.
The scientist who came up with the measurement for Ton and Kilo doesn't know **** all about comics either, but that doesn't mean we don't apply his science to understand which lifting feat is more impressive...
And I have the problem with pym generalization of that feat and declaring Thor stronger. And antagonizing everyone else.
I never said he was stupid. I said it's a poor analogy.
Originally posted by abhilegendA striking feat is a better indicator than lifting something up for fighting purposes.
Firstly it isn't a strength feat, it's a striking feat.And I have the problem with pym generalization of that feat and declaring Thor stronger. And antagonizing everyone else.
I never said he was stupid. I said it's a poor analogy.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Firstly it isn't a strength feat, it's a striking feat.And I have the problem with pym generalization of that feat and declaring Thor stronger. And antagonizing everyone else.
I never said he was stupid. I said it's a poor analogy.
Your way of argumentation is far more antagonistic though, where you'll concede absolutely nothing and whenever you find yourself defending some ludicrous point that you could easily abandon by agree'ing with someone, you'd rather try and twist what you said initially or simply say "That's not what we're arguing about".
If I recall he didn't use it as an analogy, he used it to measure which feat was greater.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I agree, partially at least.Your way of argumentation is far more antagonistic though, where you'll concede absolutely nothing and whenever you find yourself defending some ludicrous point that you could easily abandon by agree'ing with someone, you'd rather try and twist what you said initially or simply say "That's not what we're arguing about".
If I recall he didn't use it as an analogy, he used it to measure which feat was greater.
No, he was trying to claim Thor was stronger by virtue of that feat. If he had said the feat was better, I'd have no problem with him. He is free to assume it was a better feat.
Originally posted by pym-ftwSuperman benching the Earth casually for 5 days away from his power source proves he could have lifted more than 3 times more weight. It takes more than 1 Earth weight to destroy a planet.
Superman DCNU's best strength feat
6.6 Sextillion tonsThor's Gorr feat
53 Sextillion tons (greatly low balled & not taking into account force dispersion across a vacuum)
The Gor feat had Thor put a crack in a moon after a bazillion hits on Gorr. So each hit contributed to a very small portion of the feat. The feat was impressive but for it to make sense, Thor's hammer was releasing energy after each hit, otherwise the feat can't be achieved. This energy could be a combination of shockwave energy created in the atmosphere and magical energy. The latter requires no strength and thus can take away from the feat itself.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulkThor holds back far less due to his warrior upbringing. Superman by his very a nature holds back both consciously and subconsciously and has placed mental blocks on himself to stop using his full strength. Just look at his fight with DOS Doomsday where he wasn't even able to hurt doomsday in a battle which lasted hours and was actually hurting his hands punching him.
Lets put the strength difference aside for a time. How much do you think does Thor hold back in comparison to Supermna ignoring their strength difference?
And then at the verge of death he cut loose finally and beat doomsday to death in few punches. That's an astronomical difference in strength. That's just a few of many examples, Thor doesn't have feats like that. He usually struggles when holding back and then starts hammering with Mjolnir. That middles his strength feats.