Can Darth Revan do Giga-Drain?

Started by DarthAnt663 pages

So basically this:

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm not saying he would use it. I'm saying he can use it. Huge difference.

Revan knew that using the technique would corrupt the Sith Assassins and make them hunger, hence why he taught them.
The fact he was able to teach them, and experienced all the qualities necessary to be open to Malachor means he could embrace it.
Obviously, I doubt Darth Revan would ever use the technique, even in a life-or-death situation. But still, it's an interesting concept.

So basically, no he can't use it. Would not, could not, did not.

This question has been asked a dozen times here and the answer is always no.

Your logic is pretty awful, to be honest. Still love you though.

@Merchant: Meetra notes that Nyriss's presence was more sinister than any she'd ever felt iirc.

Also, Sith Force Sever is just a variant of drain life, though it seems to require prep. Paladius could do it, so I'd assume Revan could too.

Very possible she notes that, but if she does, it is after Nyriss's death.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Your logic is pretty awful, to be honest. Still love you though.

There's no source that says he can do it. There's no source that implicates he can do it. There's no reason he would even learn it when he would never do it.

You're asking me if Revan can do the technique. Since there's no evidence that he can do it, he cannot. It's simple. As I said, this has been discussed again and again and there's no merit in the suggestion. Sorry if that comes off as short, but that's how it is.

I hold by with my previous statement firmly:

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Your logic is pretty awful, to be honest. Still love you though.

Interesting to see everyone's consensus besides Nephthys is positive, though.

I think Atton means that Revan trained the assassins to kill Jedi and hunt them by searching them through the force - Kreia says something along the lines of this iirc. And unless my memory is failing me, The master or Kreia say that the masters hide in the planets strong in the force to mask their presence from the Sith Assassins.

I reiterate: Paladius could do it. Somehow I'm doubtful Paladius has greater Force Knowledge than Revan.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I reiterate: Paladius could do it. Somehow I'm doubtful Paladius has greater Force Knowledge than Revan.

Totally different technique.

Paladius has a far greater Force Knowledge then Revan, the guy's whose spirit. could affect the physical realm. Duh.

I'd say he has knowledge of the technique, being that he used Malachor V, but being able to use the technique is another matter.

Still, interesting concept.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I reiterate: Paladius could do it. Somehow I'm doubtful Paladius has greater Force Knowledge than Revan.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Paladius has a far greater Force Knowledge then Revan, the guy's whose spirit. could affect the physical realm. Duh.

The technique specifically is not about force knowledge. 😬

Paladius' technique is nothing like Nihilus or Traya's. When did Paladius do this:

"It is a means of severing connections between life, the Force, and feeding upon the death it causes. It cannot be taught. it can only be gained through instinct, through experiencing its effects, first-hand.

Because it is not something that can ever truly be controlled... and it leaves nothing to conquer in its wake. And it rules him, not the other way around. It has its own will, its own instincts.

There is no strength in the hunger he possesses... and the will behind his power is a primal thing. And it devours him as he devours others - his mere presence kills all around him, slowly, feeding him. He is already dead, it is simply a question of how many he kills before he falls.

As much as one may use the Force to bolster the wills and strengths of others, the reverse is possible, though not often used. Instead of sending one's will through connections in the Force, instead such connections are drawn upon, fed upon, and drained completely. Then you understand how terrible such a power is. And why it must be ended.It is an empty road to the dark side, and by traveling it, the price is death before one's time. "

The technique was clearly shown in Unseen, Unheard to resemble a black fog. Paladius' technique wasn't visible at all.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Hm, that's it? I just brought the pieces together and realized more evidence of her bond recovering is that Revan was capable of draining her.

She went to dantooine to heal it apparently. I don't know where that's from, I can't remember. There's a SWTOR codex entry about it, but I think that's talking more about her rebuilding the order than healing her wound.

Just re-read the scene in the book, found no evidence of Meetra hyping Nyriss.

"That painful twisting you feel in your gut? That's your life essence draining rather rapidly. That hollow, sinking feeling? Your connection to the force being severed."

I think that matches quite well.

With Revan the difference between hiz feat and hiz abilitiez iz juzt neormouz...

But He have great drain ZTar zyztème diztance it waz zourcing Darth Revan at the timez.... Feeding on the organic life of a planet not deztroy the planet but zlowly zmallow it It would have non zenz if Revan did az niihiliuz ---> adiction.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The technique can only be learned through instinct, through experiencing it first hand, through being driven to the point where you just perform the technique. Revan knew how to create conditions that facilitated this, but he did not learn it himself.

Yhea Revan force Knowledge + Ingeniozity creativity and thizrt of Knowledge....

Originally posted by Selenial
Just re-read the scene in the book, found no evidence of Meetra hyping Nyriss.

Same. Don't see her acknowledging her power anywhere, just the narrator saying she was clearly outmatched when they fought, and Scourge saying she was too powerful for both of them.

Revan uze iz drain to reztart the ztra forge....

Bazicly the ztar forge can produce only thingz if you have planz abzorbed, raw ùmateial like t a ztar... and Darkzide energy. The dark zide energy waz off when Revan arrivedhe need to drain energy from the zun to give an impulzion to the ztar forge....

Thank to my new informationz on pre KotOR Dark Revan.