Would DCnU Kick The Crap Out Of Pre-Flashpoint?

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Would DCnU Kick The Crap Out Of Pre-Flashpoint?

Does DCnU seem overall more powerful than their counterparts to you?

Superman (Benching earth/Brainiac's ship)
Uncuffed/GOW Wonder Woman
Captain Atom
Cyborg
Constantine
Firestorm
Phantom Stranger
Superboy
Sinestro (Parallax)
etc...

Even a bunch of their streets seem more formidable.

Bronze Tiger
Batman
Cheshire
Carmen Leno
Nightwing
etc...

Conversely, the imps would end DCnU

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Conversely, the imps would end DCnU

Let's just talk earth and it's streets to high heralds.

Martian Manhunter and Frankenstein would be also more formidable, IMO.

Even Aquaman got a strength push. Same to Hawkman and his Nth Metal.

Flash is not as powerful.
I'd argue WW isn't either.
Aquaman is less formidable (it's just that he has more feats that on paper look good)
Atom has been reduced to a mad geek.
Hawkman is about the same, the tradeoff in tech is balanced by that Nth metal.

I'd say Flash is more formidable with his mind tricks.
WW now as God of War is too, IMO.
Aquaman doesn't have as powerful of TP, but he's just as if not more so stronger.
Atom is likely just as smart, so no problems there.

Bane and OMAC as well.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I'd say Flash is more formidable with his mind tricks.
WW now as God of War is too, IMO.
Aquaman doesn't have as powerful of TP, but he's just as if not more so stronger.
Atom is likely just as smart, so no problems there.

He could always do that, though. Without the self doubt that made him freeze up. Not to mention speed steals etc.

WW was always plenty strong. But she now has a lesser lasso and bracers.

Same with Aqua man. Possibly stronger, but weaker TP, or at least, its not been shown yet.

Midnighter is also less formidable, I feel, as is Hawksmoor.

There are a lot of pros and cons about both.

WW is physically above her previous counterpart imo but she isn't as skilled or as fast.

Superman seems stronger but he isn't as formidable as he use to be and he isn't as fast either.

Batman seems the same.

Deathstroke got an amp imo. It's debatable though.

Martian got a push.

Atom got a huge push.

Despero isn't as formidable.

Orion is alright. Could say the same.

Grundy got a huge push.

Flash didn't get a push.

Superboy got a push as well.

Sinestro is the same.

Supergirl got a power increase.

Cyborg Superman has been decreased in power imo.

Mongul is a beast and he got a push.

Darkseid got a huge push. The most dangerous being in the universe.

Lobo sucks.

Aquaman got a push physically.

Originally posted by carver9
There are a lot of pros and cons about both.

WW is physically above her previous counterpart imo but she isn't as skilled or as fast.

Superman seems stronger but he isn't as formidable as he use to be and he isn't as fast either.

Batman seems the same.

Deathstroke got an amp imo. It's debatable though.

Martian got a push.

Atom got a huge push.

Despero isn't as formidable.

Orion is alright. Could say the same.

Grundy got a huge push.

Flash didn't get a push.

Superboy got a push as well.

Sinestro is the same.

Supergirl got a power increase.

Cyborg Superman has been decreased in power imo.

Mongul is a beast and he got a push.

Darkseid got a huge push. The most dangerous being in the universe.

Lobo sucks.

Aquaman got a push physically.

Sinestro can now control Parallax. I don't know if he could do that pre-flashpoint.

Supegirl will more than likely get a push with the how the current storyline is going.

How do Constantine's feats compare Pre and Post Nu?

Batmans been amped, I dont recall him being able to kick a motorcycle in half pre DCnU

Originally posted by relentless1
Batmans been amped, I dont recall him being able to kick a motorcycle in half pre DCnU

He also fought almost 24 hours straight. Or it could have been more than that. Pre-Flashpoint couldn't do that. He also has some of the best suits now.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]How do Constantine's feats compare Pre and Post Nu? [/B]

About the same. He's still extremely haxed.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority, but I, for the most part, like the DCnU continuity more than pre-FP, power levels or otherwise.

Pre flashpoint rapes.

everyone is younger and more powerful than they previously were
Superman is as powerful as the writers need him to be
Wonder Woman is a full fledged god now
GL specifically Kyle is pretty much top tier in the DC power hierarchy
Flash is weaker but that's mostly because its Barry
Aquaman is strangely weaker

Originally posted by SasuOna
everyone is younger and more powerful than they previously were
Superman is as powerful as the writers need him to be
Wonder Woman is a full fledged god now
GL specifically Kyle is pretty much top tier in the DC power hierarchy
Flash is weaker but that's mostly because its Barry
Aquaman is strangely weaker

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Forgot about Kyle with Life Equation. Yet, another power boost, even if it's temperary.

This is a bit too general to answer well. There are characters from both sides of FP that would defeat their counterparts. On the whole, things are probably still weighted toward pre-FP's favor, if only because we're talking about nearly 30 years compared to, what, 3-4? Recency bias will sway many, but the backlog of feats is still much higher for pre-FP.

Obviously temporary boosts like the Life Equation probably shouldn't be factored in, though, imo. Then we're just cherry-picking arcs or versions of characters to try to make a point, without normalizing the playing field.

Considering that some pre FP versions of Dr Fate could solo Nu52 Earth 2. I'm gonna say that there is no way anyone can say nu52 stomps pre fp