Janemba vs. Mystic Gohan

Originally posted by Galan007
I [still] disagree.

Using manga canon for the applicable characters, Janemba~Super Buu. Mystic Gohan>>>Super Buu. Mystic Gohan wins. 😉

How is that so? Using manga cannon, Super Buu could galaxy bust, and that's reaching. Janemba in his weakest form could universe bust. That's all there is to it. Janemba >>>>>>>> Mystic Gohan > Super Buu.

Anime cannon, Super Buu is close to universe busting like Janemba, and Gohan is quite a bit stronger, but Janemba still beat SSJ3 Goku, who proved to be stronger than Mystic Gohan, by fighting on par with Buutenks, and fighting off Buuhan with Vegeta for a short while.

Buuhan is Gohan's power stacked ON TOP of Goten's, Trunks's, Piccolo's, AND Buu's himself. SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta staved him off briefly in the anime, and he was completely blood-lusted.

Janemba shits on Gohan, either way. 👆

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Janemba in his weakest form could universe bust.

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, there is no way to prove that Janemba could one-shot the universe, so that statement is not a feat.

Now you're just being obtuse.

Goku wasn't going to outright say, "Janemba is capable of destroying the universe with one attack", because that would be dumb. He said, "Good thing we stopped the fight when we did, this guy could destroy the whole universe!!", meaning that Janemba can destroy the universe in the time it would take Goku to beat Pikkon. That's basically a one-shot, counting SSJ3.

I think you're just trying to pick the statement apart too much. The creators of the movie wouldn't have made Goku say that, if they didn't want Janemba to be a universe buster without having to outright say it plainly, which would be boring.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Now you're just being obtuse.

Goku wasn't going to outright say, "Janemba is capable of destroying the universe with one attack", because that would be dumb. He said, "Good thing we stopped the fight when we did, this guy could destroy the whole universe!!"

Neither statement denotes the ability to one-shot the universe, though. It may have taken them(Janemba/Buu) eons to do so for all we know.

So yeah, since there is a lot of ambiguity behind said statements, it is silly to use them as feats... Especially when we have actual battle feats to go by. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
That quote is nearly identical to the statement Goku made about Pure Buu potentially destroying the universe:
Goku: "I better go full throttle...! The entire universe'll be doomed if we lose..."

Neither statement denotes the ability to one-shot the universe, though. It may have taken them(Janemba/Buu) eons to do so for all we know.

So yeah, since there is a lot of ambiguity behind said statements, it is silly to use them as feats... Especially when we have actual battle feats to go by. 👆

The quotes are in no way, shape, or form identical.

First off, Kid Buu in the anime probably could have destroyed the universe with one attack. Judging by statements and scaling, at least.

Secondly, there is wiggle room for interpretation where Kid Buu is concerned, as Goku specified nothing about busting, or a time-frame. However, there is NOT wiggle room for the Janemba statement.

What you're suggesting is the same as saying it would take eons for SSJ3 Goku to beat Pikkon. Not true.

Again, and I will say this one last time, as I don't like repeating myself dozens of times like you apparently do, from Goku's statement, Janemba could destroy the universe IN LESS TIME, than it would take for Goku to beat Pikkon. We've seen fights in DBZ can last for mere seconds, or even a fraction of that, which is the case with someone much stronger than the other contestant, i.e. Goku and Pikkon, similar to Roshi and Krillin in Dragon Ball.

Either reply with something moving past the fact that Janemba can destroy a universe in mere seconds, or I'll just chalk this one up as a win.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The quotes are in no way, shape, or form identical.

First off, Kid Buu in the anime probably could have destroyed the universe with one attack. Judging by statements and scaling, at least.

Secondly, there is wiggle room for interpretation where Kid Buu is concerned, as Goku specified nothing about busting, or a time-frame. However, there is NOT wiggle room for the Janemba statement.

What you're suggesting is the same as saying it would take eons for SSJ3 Goku to beat Pikkon. Not true.

Again, and I will say this one last time, as I don't like repeating myself dozens of times like you apparently do, from Goku's statement, Janemba could destroy the universe IN LESS TIME, than it would take for Goku to beat Pikkon. We've seen fights in DBZ can last for mere seconds, or even a fraction of that, which is the case with someone much stronger than the other contestant, i.e. Goku and Pikkon, similar to Roshi and Krillin in Dragon Ball.

Either reply with something moving past the fact that Janemba can destroy a universe in mere seconds, or I'll just chalk this one up as a win.

Lol, chalk it up to a 'win' if such childish antics help you sleep better. I could care less.

You may have the last word. I wash my hands of this idiocy. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
You are wrong, DBZ's ain't universe levels, derpdederpderpderp, lulz *same shit I been sayin' dis whole time*, Even though you done proven me wrong, I'z iz right biotch, so Imma go wash muh hands!

Also, Imma admit you won, so I don't have to be embarrassed no more, cuz my butt hurts.

^ This is basically what I saw your dribble as. 👆

And fyi, I'll sleep like a baby tonight. 😉