Maul vs. Kenobi = They are comparable duelists but Maul also has the force advantage, Maul should win a majority.
Savage vs. Ventress = Savage should win, and also he has better force powers.
Kenobi vs. Savage = They are comparable but Kenobi a little better, Savage has bette force powers, this would go either way.
Maul vs. Ventress = Maul should take the dueling 10 / 10 due to makashi's weakness and also superior force powers.
Maul is the MVP here.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Maul vs. Kenobi = They are comparable duelists but Maul also has the force advantage, Maul should win a majority.Savage vs. Ventress = Savage should win, and also he has better force powers.
Kenobi vs. Savage = They are comparable but Kenobi a little better, Savage has bette force powers, this would go either way.
Maul vs. Ventress = Maul should take the dueling 10 / 10 due to makashi's weakness and also superior force powers.
Maul is the MVP here.
Agree with most of this except I don't think Kenobi vs Savage is a split tbh. As long as Kenobi fights at his best, he should beat down Opress almost every time. He'll take a few hits from Opress's Force Waves though, but nothing he can't recover from Imho. At best I see Opress's force waves holding Kenobi off for a stalemate, but not beating him.
Also Ventress has got into a full on Saber lock with Opress, so she clearly has no weakness to kinetic energy. But she'll still lose to Maul.
She has better physical than Dooku, but she is not skilled and fast as Dooku as well. Still that is why Opress should beat her for the majority and he already disarmed her in S4, she can make a saber lock and make it harder for Savage to win, but that's all really.
I don't think Kenobi should beat Savage everytime, especially since Savage defeated him with his brothers help in S4, maybe even 8 / 10 but really Savage already won one time against him, and he is not an inferior duelists to Kenobi by feats.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Still he didn't hit him via surprise at all, he just jump on him from no where, sure Kenobi was not ready to face him but there was no sucker punch at all.
I didn't say it was a sucker punch. It was a surprise attack. Obi-Wan even says "you" in a surprised voice, and hardly has a second to think about Opress being there before he starts attacking.
Plus it took both Brothers to KO Kenobi.
As I've explained before being disarmed of your weapon is not an automatic loss (as long as your weapon is still working, and available in the vicinity.
Originally posted by Marco1907
I don't think Kenobi should beat Savage everytime, especially since Savage defeated him with his brothers help in S4, maybe even 8 / 10 but really Savage already won one time against him, and he is not an inferior duelists to Kenobi by feats.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It was a surprise ambush.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Still he didn't hit him via surprise at all, he just jump on him from no where, sure Kenobi was not ready to face him but there was no sucker punch at all.
Also Marco, I can't believe I didn't notice this before, but it was Maul who disarmed Kenobi from behind, not Opress.
Opress knocks him to the floor (even that when Kenobi is trying to see where Maul is), then Maul grabs Kenobi's Saber:
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So no, Opress has never beaten Kenobi.
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Nope, Kenobi was disarmed with first strike after bladelock, and hit by the hilt of Savage's sword with another strike.
But still, his saber was in a close-range of his hand, so if not Maul's reaction, he would be able to pick up his sword.
Anyway, I'm wondering about one thing: is the fact, that Maul stomped Opress one timed bullshit?
Ventress was able to hold her own against Maul for much longer. Even those random Jedi that Maul and Opress have killed.