Jedi Dooku vs Barsen'thor

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
He defeated Vengean nigh-solo (Draag gives the Wrath the lion's share of the credit for his assassination,)

I don't care if Draahg* gives him the credit, he was still fighting alongside a powerful Sith and rival.

Darth Ekkage's hype matches that of Darth Maul.[...]it's no wonder the Wrath as of early act 2 couldn't solo her.

Hardly. But indeed, Ekkage seems to be more or less the Nyriss of her day, yeah--and it was on Belsavis. Act III.

Point is, I consider Wyellett weaker than them. Which isn't bad at all, but hardly better than Dooku.

Nyriss would wipe the floor with Maul.

BS.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nyriss would wipe the floor with Maul.

InB4 Marco rage.

True... she would get someone else to wipe the floor with Maul after she slaughters him.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I don't care if Draahg* gives him the credit, he was still fighting alongside a powerful Sith and rival.

Originally posted by Me, when I slaughtered you
Whether or not you "care" isn't my concern.

There's a reason Draahg gets put out of commission mid-fight. The Wrath does (at worst) 75% of the work. 🙄

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Hardly. But indeed, Ekkage seems to be more or less the Nyriss of her day, yeah--and it was on Belsavis. Act III.

Ultimately, historically legendary skill is inferior to being the greatest assassin in history as well as perhaps a greater weapon than any the Empire ever had.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Point is, I consider Wyellett weaker than them. Which isn't bad at all, but hardly better than Dooku.

And he isn't.

The Wrath does (at worst) 75% of the work. 🙄

But you can't make that call. He is fighting alongside a Sith that has consistently been something of a rival to him. It's 2 on 1.

Ultimately, historically legendary skill is inferior to being the greatest assassin in history

I don't recall the history* part.

And he isn't.

Then I'm not really sure what you're arguing.

If anything, their rivalry is akin to Meetra and Sion, only the wrath holds even more dominance over draahg. They were only rivals in terms of how Baras viewed their significance.

Greatest that ever lived*

I'm defending the honor of wyellett and the wrath tbh.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
True... she would get someone else to wipe the floor with Maul after she slaughters him.

The person she gets must wipe the floor... they must wipe the floor with Maul... or she becomes angry.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Her name is Nyriss... she is the greatest of the Dark Councilors.

The person she gets must wipe the floor... they must wipe the floor with Maul... or she becomes angry.

...what?

@Skillz: By the way, something that caught my eye, when did Draahg get taken out of the fight?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
...what?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
But this isn't a force contest, Aubere.

Thor's TK is overwhelming though. And if Dooku closes to engage in sabers, she can simply block his saber with a Force shield and blow him away like she did to the First Son.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
And he was defeated by the Wrath in mid-Act II. Considering how by this point Wrath was unable to defeat Ekkage or Venegean by himself, Wyellett really can't be better than the upper-class Dark Councillors; but he's up there, to be sure.

Well, Wrath killing him isn't canon. You actually have to work to keep fighting him, in super reckless fashion, with the game all but telling you you're being a dumbass. And just because the Wrath didn't kill them solo doesn't mean they'd be unable to. For the Vengean fight, Draagh gets taken out halfway through and admits the Wrath did the lion's share of the fighting (Draagh was also intentionally fighting poorly), and Vengean spent a very long time prepping before the fight and charging his power. Also iirc the Wrath is stated to be > Ekkage anyway. Who was one of the greatest assassins to ever live and was considered to be as great a weapon as any the Sith had ever had btw.

Also Wylette humiliated and injured Baras before he went super saiyan enlightenment. Plus upper-class Dark Council is pretty ****ing powerful bro.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He and his forces captured them, that doesn't mean he defeated or even fought them. Kaedan too was killed by the Wrath (or Nox), after all. Still, he's a master of Juyo-Kos and according to the encyclopedia wan one of the leaders of the Council; he's obviously solid.

I doubt the Masters went down without a fight. And Nox and Wrath (though any Empire PC can kill him iirc) > Jedi Dooku as well though. :T

Originally posted by NewGuy01
From my perspective that's a little backwards. The fact that he defeated Zallow is what defines Malgus's skill, not the other way around--and even then, I don't consider Malgus to be Dooku's superior by that point anyway.

Maybe not Sith Dooku, but Jedi Dooku?

The Dread Master's are described as the galaxy's greatest threat during the Dread War.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thor's TK is overwhelming though. And if Dooku closes to engage in sabers, she can simply block his saber with a Force shield and blow him away like she did to the First Son.

So why does this logic not apply when she's matched against the HoT?

Well, Wrath killing him isn't canon.

Dark Side choices are canon, bro.

Point is, Wyellett is demonstratably not as powerful as he claims to be. He believed he could handily overwhelm the Wrath, but was soundly defeated in the end.

Also iirc the Wrath is stated to be > Ekkage anyway.

Only by himself.

Also Wylette humiliated and injured Baras before he went super saiyan enlightenment.

I don't see anything hinting that he injured Baras, much less humiliated him, only that he was able to steal his lightsaber.

And it just so happens Baras got a major boost after that too.

I doubt the Masters went down without a fight.

That doesn't make very much sense, though.

Maybe not Sith Dooku, but Jedi Dooku?

Depends on how relevant you think the gap between them is, I suppose.

Dark Side choices are canon for Imperial.
Light Side choices are canon for Republic.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
@Skillz: By the way, something that caught my eye, when did Draahg get taken out of the fight?

He gets ragdolled when Vengean is at half health, taken out until the end.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Dark Side choices are canon for Imperial.
Light Side choices are canon for Republic.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Dark Side choices are canon for Imperial.
Light Side choices are canon for Republic.

I don't think that's official. Plus that would be shitty. Darkside Agent is stupid and lame and completely contrary to the plot, Lightside Warrior and Bounty Hunter are both superior to the alternative.

In terms of KMC debating, it's official.

Lol BS.