Obi wan Kenobi vs Count Dooku (sabers only)

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They are directly contradicted by Shadow of Malevolence.

Ah I see.

Count Dooku has been consistently shown to be superior to Kenobi in their encounters. Kenobi's only real chance that I can see is if he can play entirely defensively to wear Dooku out, but I can see the arguments for why that might not work.

I'll give it to Dooku for a majority.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
As I stated in previous threads its impossible for that to be the case because we see Kenobi on the bridge of his destroyer when they get in system and there is no Dooku, additionally he's at the Separatist rendezvous point communicating with Grievous.

Dooku thrashes Kenobi

Wait, but it seems as if Dooku is about to escape the Clones at the end of that cut scene.

So isn't it possible Dooku escaped before Kenobi's ship gets into the system and then went to the Separatist rendezvous point?

Of course it would be beyond stupidity for Kenobi to leave a Captured Dooku alone with some clones. Pretty sure capturing Dooku would be more important than any Ion Canon Lol

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol. Ant made a compelling case for it to be non-canon though.

While compelling, it's still canon

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
He's talking about that, and saying the events are directly contradicted by an episode or something.

That's totally irrelevant to the discussion whether he thinks it contradicts this or that. This happens in games...tv series.. books etc.. That doesn't make them non canon. Besides, him not understanding how he could be there isn't a reason for it to be thrown out. That is why we throw stuff out because ohhh I thought he was here not there... Sorry... it stands.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They are directly contradicted by Shadow of Malevolence.

That's your opinion.. luckily you don't decide on what's canon or not.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
While compelling, it's still canon

Oh great. Look what you've done Neph. KT is guaranteed going to cling to that in future debates.

Even though he denied Dooku battling Mace and Kenobi together because it was in a similar type video game. Except one that clearly didn't contradict any episode.

Forgive the spoilers, folks, but Thanosi is pro-Kenobi in a big way. The thought of him besting Dooku is probably inducing the mother of all boners.

In fact, I have a boner as we speak after seeing that video 🙂

Canon is canon after all 🙂

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Oh great. Look what you've done Neph. KT is guaranteed going to cling to that in future debates.

Even though he denied Dooku battling Mace and Kenobi together because it was in a similar type video game. Except one that clearly didn't contradict any episode.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
In fact, I have a boner as we speak after seeing that video 🙂

Canon is canon after all 🙂

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Indeed it is. 😂

Dooku stomps tbh.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Oh great. Look what you've done Neph. KT is guaranteed going to cling to that in future debates.

Even though he denied Dooku battling Mace and Kenobi together because it was in a similar type video game. Except one that clearly didn't contradict any episode.

Stomp.. Nah... They would all be close fights.. Dooku probably wins a slight majority though... even though I hate to say it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Stomp.. Nah... They would all be close fights.. Dooku probably wins a slight majority though... even though I hate to say it.

Bro, c'mon. The Count took Anakin and Obi-Wan on there quite handily without Force pwning either one. Admit it, Dooku takes Obi-Wan to school.

{That's a weird phrase, innit?}

Dooku would smack Kenobi's naughty bum with his ruler in the hallway that's how bad he gets schooled

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I never denied anything about that scene at all. I never said it wasn't canon. Good try though DP bud

Urm, yes actually you did. I showed you that once in a Dooku vs Mace debate, and you clearly layed into me for showing you video game cut scenes as proof.

Kenobi might be near-equal to Dooku only in KT's own little word.

Anyways, my point still stands. Dooku would win against Kenobi due to being more skilled at fencing, but Kenobi is much better than Dooku ever was against physical monsters such as Anakin / Vader, Maul and Savage.

They are comparable in general, but Dooku should win against Kenobi due to his private advantage over Kenobi.

Originally posted by Marco1907
but Kenobi is much better than Dooku ever was against physical monsters such as Anakin / Vader, Maul and Savage.

Dooku can beat those guys, it's just he needs a more open environment. He'll struggle against them in close quarters. He also needs to face them 1 on 1 preferably:

"His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head. Especially not while defending against a second attacker."

He'd definitely lose against Maul and Opress together for example(IMO). Especially in that cave where Kenobi faced them. Even though Kenobi was able to survive (and even stalemate/win?) that encounter.