Would Sidious blitz Revan?

Started by SIDIOUS 668 pages

Also, order 66 is an example of what happens when the jedi are caught by surprise and their visions clouded by the dark side. Yoda indicates that the jedi of his time were battle ready and didn't expect to be taken out the way they were. Luke also refers to the PT era as the jedi at it's most powerful in the BotS, I believe. Just because an era is constantly torn by wars, doesn't prove they are better warriors or better trained. In fact, all the years of fighting and so much casualties would indicate that many didn't have time for proper and complete training, and were thrown in battle far too soon.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lucas' quote was before the KotOR or TOR era ever existed. It no longer holds any credibility.

Right, I think that is why ToR era is canon now.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lucas' quote was before the KotOR or TOR era ever existed. It no longer holds any credibility.

Doesn't mean anything, other than a newer and less credible source contradicting a much higher one.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Also, order 66 is an example of what happens when the jedi are caught by surprise and their visions clouded by the dark side.

Their precognition is so shit they couldn't sense a clonetrooper aiming a blaster at them? The entire galaxy of the KotOR era was immersed in darkness for a century, not sure how Palpatine compares.

Yoda indicates that the jedi of his time were battle ready and didn't expect to be taken out the way they were.

Character opinion doesn't outweigh sourcebooks, and tell me why I should care anyway?

Luke also refers to the PT era as the jedi at it's most powerful in the BotS, I believe.

Character opinion doesn't outweigh sourcebooks. Also, FOTJ suggests Luke has limited knowledge of the Jedi before the PT.
Just because an era is constantly torn by wars, doesn't prove they are better warriors or better trained. In fact, all the years of fighting and so much casualties would indicate that many didn't have time for proper and complete training, and were thrown in battle far too soon.

I see your reading comprehension is approximately 3rd grade level, so I'll explain personally...
The Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide directly states the constant warfare made Jedi become masters in lightsaber and Force related combat, not the opposite. Understand:

"The many wars of this era compel large numbers of Jedi to become experts in lightsaber and Force-related combat. Some become masters on the battlefield; others become highly skilled duelists, able to battle dark Jedi and Sith in single combat." --Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide
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Basically your arguments directly contradict the canonical source. I accept your concession, and you are dismissed.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Doesn't mean anything, other than a newer and less credible source contradicting a much higher one.

It means everything. Lucas was basing his claim off of the current Jedi Order at the time... a order Revan was not apart of yet.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Just because an era is constantly torn by wars, doesn't prove they are better warriors or better trained. In fact, all the years of fighting and so much casualties would indicate that many didn't have time for proper and complete training, and were thrown in battle far too soon.

Interesting point tbh, I agreed.

Wtf, how the **** can you agree when the canon quote says the opposite?
You are like Chris Griffin incarnated into the real world, except lost the humor and replaced it with annoyance.

Hmm... Right, the ''canon'' quote.

Yeah... C-Canon. Why?

I was just kidding, because all of them are non-canon actually, while Lucas's PT movies and TCW animation is not.

Which is why Lucas's word >>>> any source you can provide.

Look at the forum your posting in and the canon policy, buddy boy.

@darthant66

Your attempt on wank to Kotor era would be a useless gesture, no matter what non-canon data you obtain. PT and TCW are now the ultimate power in the Star Wars universe, I suggest you accept it.

I accept your concession.

Ant, and nothing overrides a G-canon source. Deal with, and move on. This has no affect on Revan, though, since he survived a helluva lot, which you could probably make a case for basing it on that, but the other isn't up for debate. It doesn't stop you from defending Revan, though. Make your case for him.

Also, it's not Yoda's opinion if he was the one overseeing the jedi's training.

Palpatine more than compares, he immersed the galaxy in the dark side to a greater extent than anything or anyone before him, and the force itself agrees, which is why a chosen one was created to get rid of him.

Being overwhelmed by streams of likely bullet speed blasters, isn't much of a low showing, especially when they were caught unsuspected.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Look at the forum your posting in and the canon policy, buddy boy.

Well, I did a brief overview of the canon policy, and it doesn't exactly agree with you here. 😛

@IHA66 So you concede that the KotOR era is superior to PT era in every aspect, but the only element holding you back in Lucas' 15 year old quote?
I guess that is good enough, I suppose. I wouldn't expect you to give up your PT bias, regardless of what argument anyone makes. Too much anal, I suppose.

Well you can't really talk about KOTOR and simultaneously talk about it being Non-Canon Legends.

If KOTOR's in the conversation then we are by default talking Legends Canon.

How are you talking too?

Originally posted by Marco1907
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IHA66? IHateAnt66? 😆