Should people marry? It seems that God would forbid it.

Should people marry? It seems that God would forbid it.

Christian scriptures say that in heaven, there is no marriage.

When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
http://biblehub.com/mark/12-25.htm

As above so below, on earth as it is in heaven, indicates that when God returns to reclaim dominion from Satan, marriage will be abolished.

Why then do most religion of the Abrahamic root advocate marriage at all. Especially the polygamy. God does not favor marriage. If no two souls are to marry in heaven, then the law on earth should be that no two people marry.

We should emulate Jesus in all things and remember that as a Jew, he was almost forced by tradition to marry yet never did even though Gnostic Christian scriptures show him as loving Mary Magdalen more than his male disciples. Even kissing her on the (unknown parts). That is why I suggest that Jesus married Mary. Marriage was expected of all Rabbis.

This modern Gnostic Christian thinks marriage is the way to go, with a single mate, be that a mate of the same gender or not. Love is what is important. Not gender. That aside, I think that frees choice should reign in this issue.

Do you think we should abolish marriage and move closer to God’s heavenly law?

Regards
DL

The Bible also clearly states that Heaven will be destroyed (2 Peter 3:10). No one is going to Heaven, but instead to the Kingdom of God. The Bible says that Heaven suffers from violence, and the violent take it by force (Matthew 11:12). Marriage was put in place so that people would not commit fornication. The Bible states that the children of God should be innocent because the enemy accuses them daily (Revelation 12:10). The Armor of God is the righteousness of a person (Ephesians 6:10-18). The Devil cannot accuse a person that has done no wrong. These are directly linked to the convictions of a person. Marriage as I said was put in place so that a person does not commit fornication which is a sin, and seen as such several times in the Bible. So by getting married a person follows the laws of the land, and are not found guilty because they are fulfilling the laws of man. There won't be any marriage after this life, because the laws of man will no longer apply to those who gained eternal Love, and Life, instead of gaining eternal Damnation, and Death.

Revelation 12:7-12 "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the Kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

Isaiah 51:11
Those the LORD has rescued will return. They will enter Zion with singing; everlasting joy will crown their heads. Gladness and joy will overtake them, and sorrow and sighing will flee away.

Isaiah 65:17
"See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.

Isaiah 66:22
"As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me," declares the LORD, "so will your name and descendants endure.

Romans 8:21
that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

2 Peter 3:13
But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

Revelation 6:14
The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

Revelation 20:11
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.

Revelation 21:1 Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Should people marry? It seems that God would forbid it.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Christian scriptures say that in heaven, there is no marriage.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
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As above so below, on earth as it is in heaven, indicates that when God returns to reclaim dominion from Satan, marriage will be abolished.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Why then do most religion of the Abrahamic root advocate marriage at all. Especially the polygamy. God does not favor marriage. If no two souls are to marry in heaven, then the law on earth should be that no two people marry.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
We should emulate Jesus in all things and remember that as a Jew, he was almost forced by tradition to marry yet never did even though Gnostic Christian scriptures show him as loving Mary Magdalen more than his male disciples. Even kissing her on the (unknown parts). That is why I suggest that Jesus married Mary. Marriage was expected of all Rabbis.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
This modern Gnostic Christian thinks marriage is the way to go, with a single mate, be that a mate of the same gender or not. Love is what is important. Not gender. That aside, I think that frees choice should reign in this issue.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Do you think we should abolish marriage and move closer to God’s heavenly law?

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
I think that frees choice should reign in this issue.

Pretty sure this is all you needed to say. The rest is fluff.

coz here on earth, people have gender... in Christian doctrines, heaven is a spiritual realm, when a person dies, the flesh returns to dust and the spirit goes to God... and a spirit has no gender...

part of it was discussed here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=601525&pagenumber=5#post14995204

Originally posted by Digi
Pretty sure this is all you needed to say. The rest is fluff.

😂 Fluff is everything!

Originally posted by Stoic
The Bible also clearly states that Heaven will be destroyed (2 Peter 3:10). No one is going to Heaven, but instead to the Kingdom of God. The Bible says that Heaven suffers from violence, and the violent take it by force (Matthew 11:12). Marriage was put in place so that people would not commit fornication. The Bible states that the children of God should be innocent because the enemy accuses them daily (Revelation 12:10). The Armor of God is the righteousness of a person (Ephesians 6:10-18). The Devil cannot accuse a person that has done no wrong. These are directly linked to the convictions of a person. Marriage as I said was put in place so that a person does not commit fornication which is a sin, and seen as such several times in the Bible. So by getting married a person follows the laws of the land, and are not found guilty because they are fulfilling the laws of man. There won't be any marriage after this life, because the laws of man will no longer apply to those who gained eternal Love, and Life, instead of gaining eternal Damnation, and Death.

[b]Revelation 12:7-12 "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the Kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." [/B]

What have we done to be condemned?

Do you think that a judge like God, who sets and accepts bribes and sacrifices, is a judge worthy of judging man?

That judge is a corrupt judge and a man would be quite the fool to accept his judgement.

Right?

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why would God care?

The bible says a lot of strange stuff.

That is because everyone will be dead.

It has to do with property, control and money.

I agree. I think Jesus was married to Mary Magdalen. But that is just my belief.

I think marriage should be set free from the control of the state and religion. In other words, we marry who ever we wish to.

No.

If we set marriage free, it will just find a new control mechanism.

We likely would gain nothing.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by dyajeep
coz here on earth, people have gender... in Christian doctrines, heaven is a spiritual realm, when a person dies, the flesh returns to dust and the spirit goes to God... and a spirit has no gender...

part of it was discussed here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=601525&pagenumber=5#post14995204

If there is no gender in heaven, why does the church show Satan with womanly breasts?

Have a look at the Vatican art.

If there is no gender in heaven then why all those nice breasts?

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
If we set marriage free, it will just find a new control mechanism.

We likely would gain nothing.

Regards
DL

That is possible; I do not know. Humans are control freaks, after all.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
If there is no gender in heaven, why does the church show Satan with womanly breasts?

Have a look at the Vatican art.

If there is no gender in heaven then why all those nice breasts?

Regards
DL

Michelangelo was a great artist, but he also might have been gay. We are not sure, because being gay in his time would have been a death sentence. People who knew him claimed that Michelangelo was chaste. The breast could have been an invention of Michelangelo's, and not the church. He did a lot of things the offended the church.

People shouldn't marry, but for reasons wholly unrelated to the OP. I think it's Penn Jillette who's fond of saying, "I'm against gay marriage. But I'm also against straight marriage." I'll happily cosign that sentiment, provided it's not taken out of context to serve bigoted ends.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Michelangelo was a great artist, but he also might have been gay. We are not sure, because being gay in his time would have been a death sentence. People who knew him claimed that Michelangelo was chaste. The breast could have been an invention of Michelangelo's, and not the church. He did a lot of things the offended the church.

The Church is certainly offensive to many.

Michelangelo was paid to paint as told to paint. He did not paint what he wanted to paint.

Satan being female is just the Church showing that it has always been misogynistic.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Digi
People shouldn't marry, but for reasons wholly unrelated to the OP. I think it's Penn Jillette who's fond of saying, "I'm against gay marriage. But I'm also against straight marriage." I'll happily cosign that sentiment, provided it's not taken out of context to serve bigoted ends.

Who would look after the children if there was no marriage?

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Who would look after the children if there was no marriage?

Since when do you need to be married to look after kids?

YouTube video

That's the thesis statement. And at the beginning of this next video, he tells a personal story about why he had to get married:

YouTube video

Once they leave the topic of marriage, the rest of the video isn't relevant.

So really, it has less to do with God, and more to do with why the hell I only get a tax break if I jump through a specific government hoop that is arrogant enough to legislate love and f*cking.

Originally posted by Digi
Since when do you need to be married to look after kids?

Few who are not married look after the kids of others so the question is quite pertinent.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Digi
YouTube video

That's the thesis statement. And at the beginning of this next video, he tells a personal story about why he [b]had to get married:

YouTube video

Once they leave the topic of marriage, the rest of the video isn't relevant.

So really, it has less to do with God, and more to do with why the hell I only get a tax break if I jump through a specific government hoop that is arrogant enough to legislate love and f*cking. [/B]

Governments want children and do not mind rewarding people for providing them. After all, kids are expensive projects.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
The Church is certainly offensive to many.

Michelangelo was paid to paint as told to paint. He did not paint what he wanted to paint.

Satan being female is just the Church showing that it has always been misogynistic.

Regards
DL

That's not totally true.

"The scheme proposed by the pope was for twelve large figures of the Apostles to occupy the pendentives.[10] However Michelangelo negotiated for a grander, much more complex scheme and was finally permitted, in his own words, "to do as I liked".[11] His scheme for the ceiling eventually comprised some three hundred figures and took four years to execute, being completed in 1512.[5][9] It is unknown and is the subject of much speculation among art historians as to whether Michelangelo was really able to "do as he liked".[10] It has been suggested that Egidio da Viterbo was a consultant for the Theology.[12] Many writers consider that Michelangelo had the intellect, the Biblical knowledge and the powers of invention to have devised the scheme himself. This is supported by Condivi's statement that Michelangelo read and reread the Old Testament while he was painting the ceiling, drawing his inspiration from the words of the scripture, rather than from the established traditions of sacral art.[13] There was a total of 343 figures painted on the ceiling."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistine_Chapel_ceiling