DCnU Highfather Vs Bor

Originally posted by operator616
Regarding Mogo: What does injustice have to do with mainstream universe?

Anyway, i wouldnt put Mogo in the skyfather tier. He was implied to be below Guardian-level and there was a 90s GL Annual where Kyle owned a resurrected Mogo (even though Mogo was technically alive in that period they treated him as if he was dead).

He does have a few good feats though. He put down Ganthet at one point; absorbed hundreds of Black Lanterns into his being; and cut all GLs from Volthoom's (a reality warper) influence and created constructs for each of them to fight to hype them up for a battle against Volthoom.

Here's the entire scene:

http://i.imgur.com/XeJ3xVB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8aG45FL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T1lb4Hc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cNIY6le.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nRnEaO4.jpg

Looks like Mogo attacked but it didn't stop Orion. Is that how Orion defeated Mogo? By taking his ring? If so, I take my statement back. Not an interesting way if beating Mogo imo.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not to mention he recently absorbed "all the fires of creation" that essentially prevented the destruction of the 9 realms... And that was in the 2010's...

👆

Drawing all the elctro-magnetic particles of the universe, owning a Surtur who was packing galaxy-busting power (even back in the 60s), defeating Forsung in a battle which destroyed many stars across the universe, creating an entire dimension along with his two brothers, manipulating Ygdrassil tree which in the same arc was multiversal, infusing Thor with enough OF power to go against Thanos who gained a universal power-up, overpowering Uthana-Thoth temporarily, cutting an entire realm from the tree are all examples of Odin displaying power on a galactic/universal scale apart from his two Galaxy busting feats, and the one you mentioned.

So saying that a galactic-level feat happened one time in Odin's entire history is blatantly false.

Originally posted by carver9
Looks like Mogo attacked but it didn't stop Orion. Is that how Orion defeated Mogo? By taking his ring? If so, I take my statement back. Not an interesting way if beating Mogo imo.

Yes, that's how he beat him.

Originally posted by carver9
Looks like Mogo attacked but it didn't stop Orion. Is that how Orion defeated Mogo? By taking his ring? If so, I take my statement back. Not an interesting way if beating Mogo imo.

Orion was a straight up bawzz in that scene!

Originally posted by operator616
👆

Drawing all the elctro-magnetic particles of the universe, owning a Surtur who was packing galaxy-busting power (even back in the 60s), defeating Forsung in a battle which destroyed many stars across the universe, creating an entire dimension along with his two brothers, manipulating Ygdrassil tree which in the same arc was multiversal, infusing Thor with enough OF power to go against Thanos who gained a universal power-up, overpowering Uthana-Thoth temporarily, cutting an entire realm from the tree are all examples of Odin displaying power on a galactic/universal scale apart from his two Galaxy busting feats, and the one you mentioned.

So saying that a galactic-level feat happened one time in Odin's entire history is blatantly false.

Yes, that's how he beat him.

👆 to everything you just said.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Orion was a straight up bawzz in that scene!

Yeah, it was a nice showing for him. I just remembered the Mogo scene wrong. Still a good ft for him though.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Just think about that way. If Injustice Superman becomes a Skyfather+ just because of the fear of some billion people, what is a Planet full of sentient beings capable of.

We've done this dance a few times.

Superman when amped by the fear etc, was about Skyfather. Not above that, however.

Mid Herald: Shazam (this is purely going by the tier thread)
High Herald: Superman (pre-amp)
Trans: Ganthet (owned a HH and a mid herald as effortlessly as others have, such as Fernus)
Skyfather: Odin (and like mainstream DC Superman, or 616 Surfer being the top examples of the HH tier, Odin is the top dog of his tier).

Shazam is ft less in injustice. How is he a mid Herald?

Originally posted by carver9
Shazam is ft less in injustice. How is he a mid Herald?

Was going purely by the tiering thread, was in response to another post in the other thread where the example of Shazam was brought up.

ASSUMING he was the same as mainstream, then he was mid. I wouldn't say he was meta tier, for example.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was going purely by the tiering thread, was in response to another post in the other thread where the example of Shazam was brought up.

ASSUMING he was the same as mainstream, then he was mid. I wouldn't say he was meta tier, for example.

What tier would you place him in 'based off his fts'? He has literally shown nothing. He did just Shazam bolt someone but the person he did this too was ok afterwards. I'm trying to figure out why you are placing him so high. Nothing against you but I'm trying to see if I missed anything because if not, owning him isn't that special.

Bor wins.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Orion was a straight up bawzz in that scene!

Probably his best showing thus far.

Originally posted by operator616
The Guardians of the universe (who range from low to high trans) admitted that even regular new gods are above them; and HF is well above regular new gods.

How exactly does this work now? Characters like Superman and WW can fight on the level of Orion can't they? And quite a few other earth characters are more than capable of taking on Superman etc.

Now Orion is not Highfather, but he must be one of the most powerful New Gods. Does this mean that Superman, Wonder Woman, and others in their class are supposed to be above the Guardians of the Universe these days?

Taking HF over Bor.

Depends on if you believe Orion was going all out in his fights with WW/Superman.

yeah, regular new gods being above guardians is....just plain stupid. hal himself would be a great match against orion and the guardians have been/should be WELL above any average gl. if that is in fact a fact, and not some self-deprecating bs, that is a really, really dumbass revelation....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Depends on if you believe Orion was going all out in his fights with WW/Superman.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, regular new gods being above guardians is....just plain stupid. hal himself would be a great match against orion and the guardians have been/should be WELL above any average gl. if that is in fact a fact, and not some self-deprecating bs, that is a really, really dumbass revelation....

Orion was trying to kill superman and then superman was directly stated to be more powerful than him.

I doubt Orion was holding back. It's just that the writer of godhead has a very high opinion of new gods. It's an anomaly actually.

What if.....

The writer of Superman had a very high opinion of Superman 😈

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if.....

The writer of Superman had a very high opinion of Superman 😈