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Angelalex242 Senior Member

Anyways, I think Jaina and Mara are still being downplayed too much.

The one vs. video with Mara I found had her on par with Darth Malgus, barely edging him out. The same video maker had Jaina beat Plagueis.

So, if you want to rely on EvanNova's opinion, the Jedi have this.

Arhael Devoid of reality

Originally posted by carthage
Mara wouldn't overwhelm Maul, she had enough trouble with Lumiya by nearly giving herself a concussion by headbutting her, failing to stab her, and nearly getting strangled by the Meditation sphere (she knew was self aware). Lumiya and Maul are more or less skillfully equal, she'd lose to Maul or get destroyed by Plagueis

Lumyia would kick Maul's ass. Luke even with boost of confidence couldn't do anything more than drive Lumiya back. She is that good.

NewGuy01 perpetual

Logically Luke should have been able to toss her around like a ragdoll, though, considering how weak she was in the Force.

Arhael Devoid of reality

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Logically Luke should have been able to toss her around like a ragdoll, though, considering how weak she was in the Force.

Logically her Force defenses are in check. What really is a problem is that she gets tired fast. Another Jedi pushed a statue against her, she was well capable to defend. But as contest kept going she got tired, she could just dodge that statue but she was deliberately doing it to influence Jacen. If Lumiya could simply be ragdolled, Mara would do exactly that, she definitely has no reason to hold back anything, she even used lightning during dark nest.

Lumiya to Luke is like Luke to Abeloth. By your logic Abeloth should have ragdolled Luke as well.

Angelalex242 Senior Member

You may consider that to be plot induced stupidity. Luke's inconsistency is basically 'strong as he needs to be.' If the plot requires him to suck, he does.

The_Tempest Senior Member

Watching Arhael piss in the wind never fails to entertain.

Marco1907 Great Sith Lord

*sigh

Arhael's denial on how inconsistent GM Luke really is happened again...

So according to your logic, Lumiya is like Sidious or Plagueis level since she just manage to fight against GM Luke right ? Nice.

Arhael Devoid of reality

Originally posted by Angelalex242
You may consider that to be plot induced stupidity. Luke's inconsistency is basically 'strong as he needs to be.' If the plot requires him to suck, he does.

Inconsistency is nothing but a bias used to blatantly dismiss feats. Lumiya's powers were limited but that doesn't make her a weakling. Her fight against both Mara and Luke is a proof of that.
Luke was actually very strong due to plot. Being able to drive her back without a shoto is very impressing considering that others are unable to block a single attack of her whip. Mara in comparison avoided the duel and turned the fight into a brawl.

Arhael Devoid of reality

Originally posted by Marco1907
*sigh
Arhael's denial on how inconsistent GM Luke really is happened again...
So according to your logic, Lumiya is like Sidious or Plagueis level since she just manage to fight against GM Luke right ? Nice.

Not really. Sith can spam lighting, so she pretty much has no chance.

Angelalex242 Senior Member

Okay, then how do you explain a single droideka holding off Luke...and Mara too?

Plot Induced Stupidity.

Arhael Devoid of reality

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Okay, then how do you explain a single droideka holding off Luke...and Mara too?
Plot Induced Stupidity.

Never faced a droideka before, knowledge matters. And it was a modified droideka, more dangegous than a regular one. Confined space makes it more favorable for droideka as well. And they faced droideka after storming through enemies of an entire ship, surely they weren't in their best form. Droideka are problematic for PT Jedi too or you forgot how Qui-Gon and Kenobi ran away from them and tried to generally avoid direct encounter?
In PT I remember a droideka being defeated only by Anakin. He slid himself under it in order to cut it down and he encountered them many times in order to learn their weaknesses. Otherwise Jedi pretty much preferred to avoid them or use some sort of heavy artillery.

Marco1907 Great Sith Lord

@arhael

Modified Droideka vs. Lumiya, who wins ?

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Probably Kolar

Marco1907 Great Sith Lord

How about Droideka army vs. Maul ?

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Maul only blitz in SW Cannon

Droidekas dont have a chance

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Maul blitzes droids who have faster processing than petty living beings who are restricted by their fleshy brain capacity

Speedster tbh

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Angelalex242 Senior Member

Then you have to explain why Luke doesn't just crush the thing when he's proven capable of blowing through Vong.

Plot Induced Stupidity.

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I would somewhat enjoy if Luke just cut loose every fight but it would make for boring books I suppose. I really don't think he does go all out despite what people say about lowballing his opponents; He should be able to just crush everyone. Could you imagine Sidious not trashing Lumiya outright? PIS Indeed.