Originally posted by juggernaut74
What is Ms. Marvels official strength rating? 70 tons iirc. Namoras is 75 tons(while in water) I believe. So strength is pretty close but Namora is too fast and adept to fighting imo.
Namora is 75 tons out of water, and more than 100 tons out of water. With that being said, I don't think people should be too hung up on strength classes as method of comparison. Namora's feats of physical strength consistently outclass Ms Marvel's feats by a large margin. When has Carol ever picked up something as massive as a ship? Carol beat the crap out of The Grey Hulk. Namora has actually traded blows, and in this one scan actually knocked down Green Hulk by throwing something heavy on him.
With Namora, it's raw power, and sheer strength. I think Ms Marvel is actually quicker than she is.
Originally posted by zopzop
Not really, if you're talking about the Revengers vs New Avengers showdown. Even that **** Bendis couldn't save her from Simon's wrath. 😆
Well, Carol had a much better showing in her own comic where she traded blows with a mind controlled Wonderman. The Revengers v Avengers, Wonderman wasn't mind controlled, but absolutely insane. It was pretty bad for Carol. All you saw was Carol flying up to fight Wonderman, next thing you know, an unconscious Carol crashed to the earth.
Originally posted by carver9
She seems stronger than 75 tons out of water.
A hell of a lot more stronger. Here she is ripping off a huge chunk of a battleship: http://s378.photobucket.com/user/wilcat92/media/Namora/img012.jpg.html
Originally posted by Mike82The only Hulk scans I saw were the ones where Namora says that she basically cannot even hurt the Hulk, even in the water. Maybe I missed some perhaps?
Namora is 75 tons out of water, and more than 100 tons out of water. With that being said, I don't think people should be too hung up on strength classes as method of comparison. Namora's feats of physical strength consistently outclass Ms Marvel's feats by a large margin. When has Carol ever picked up something as massive as a ship? Carol beat the crap out of The Grey Hulk. Namora has actually traded blows, and in this one scan actually knocked down Green Hulk by throwing something heavy on him.With Namora, it's raw power, and sheer strength. I think Ms Marvel is actually quicker than she is.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
The only Hulk scans I saw were the ones where Namora says that she basically cannot even hurt the Hulk, even in the water. Maybe I missed some perhaps?
Namora restraining WWH(at least temporarily)
http://s378.photobucket.com/user/wilcat92/media/Namora/IncredibleHulk107-022.jpg.html
Here's the scan I was referring to: http://s378.photobucket.com/user/wilcat92/media/Namora/aoa_08_18.jpg.html
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Namora seemed pretty sincere that she would get her but kicked by the Hulk.
Everybody would get their butt kicked by Hulk, but she's certainly strong enough to pin down one of Hulk's arms for a time, which is a lot more I can say for most other heroes. Ms Marvel wouldn't be strong enough to do that to WWH.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I think Colossus holding WWHulk off in a test of strength is more impressive than that. Hulk gave Colossus some props.
Not a very good example, really. Hulk easily bent back Colossus' arms. Hulk said Colossus had guts and said he almost considered Colossus to be a good match for him at one time.
Originally posted by Mike82
Everybody would get their butt kicked by Hulk, but she's certainly strong enough to pin down one of Hulk's arms for a time, which is a lot more I can say for most other heroes. Ms Marvel wouldn't be strong enough to do that to WWH.
Carol restrained Count Nefaria for a few moments, who's stronger then Thor.