Ms. Marvel vs Namora

Started by zopzop4 pages

Originally posted by juggernaut74
You don't think it's possible to one-shot somebody who is equal to you in strength? One well placed hit is all it takes.

If it's a sucker punch? Sure. Otherwise........

Originally posted by zopzop
If it's a sucker punch? Sure. Otherwise........
In a straight up fight I'm talking. I'd bet Roy Jones Jr. could KO a strong man competitor with one hit.

Originally posted by zopzop
Strength rating is meaningless. Namorita is CL75 and Namora one shotted her.

New Warriors comic?

I can believe it, if so. Haven't read a single New Warriors comic that wasn't awful.

Anyone have the scan of Namora KOing Namorita?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
What is Ms. Marvels official strength rating? 70 tons iirc. Namoras is 75 tons(while in water) I believe. So strength is pretty close but Namora is too fast and adept to fighting imo.

Namora is 75 tons out of water, and more than 100 tons out of water. With that being said, I don't think people should be too hung up on strength classes as method of comparison. Namora's feats of physical strength consistently outclass Ms Marvel's feats by a large margin. When has Carol ever picked up something as massive as a ship? Carol beat the crap out of The Grey Hulk. Namora has actually traded blows, and in this one scan actually knocked down Green Hulk by throwing something heavy on him.

With Namora, it's raw power, and sheer strength. I think Ms Marvel is actually quicker than she is.

She seems stronger than 75 tons out of water.

Originally posted by zopzop
Not really, if you're talking about the Revengers vs New Avengers showdown. Even that **** Bendis couldn't save her from Simon's wrath. 😆

Well, Carol had a much better showing in her own comic where she traded blows with a mind controlled Wonderman. The Revengers v Avengers, Wonderman wasn't mind controlled, but absolutely insane. It was pretty bad for Carol. All you saw was Carol flying up to fight Wonderman, next thing you know, an unconscious Carol crashed to the earth.

Originally posted by carver9
She seems stronger than 75 tons out of water.

A hell of a lot more stronger. Here she is ripping off a huge chunk of a battleship: http://s378.photobucket.com/user/wilcat92/media/Namora/img012.jpg.html

Originally posted by Mike82
Namora is 75 tons out of water, and more than 100 tons out of water. With that being said, I don't think people should be too hung up on strength classes as method of comparison. Namora's feats of physical strength consistently outclass Ms Marvel's feats by a large margin. When has Carol ever picked up something as massive as a ship? Carol beat the crap out of The Grey Hulk. Namora has actually traded blows, and in this one scan actually knocked down Green Hulk by throwing something heavy on him.

With Namora, it's raw power, and sheer strength. I think Ms Marvel is actually quicker than she is.

The only Hulk scans I saw were the ones where Namora says that she basically cannot even hurt the Hulk, even in the water. Maybe I missed some perhaps?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The only Hulk scans I saw were the ones where Namora says that she basically cannot even hurt the Hulk, even in the water. Maybe I missed some perhaps?

Namora restraining WWH(at least temporarily)
http://s378.photobucket.com/user/wilcat92/media/Namora/IncredibleHulk107-022.jpg.html

Here's the scan I was referring to: http://s378.photobucket.com/user/wilcat92/media/Namora/aoa_08_18.jpg.html

In the 2nd scan she pretty much says she can't do anything to Hulk.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
In the 2nd scan she pretty much says she can't do anything to Hulk.

True, but Hulk wasn't hurting her all that much either. She can fight the Hulk without getting beaten right away.

Namora seemed pretty sincere that she would get her but kicked by the Hulk.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Namora seemed pretty sincere that she would get her but kicked by the Hulk.

Everybody would get their butt kicked by Hulk, but she's certainly strong enough to pin down one of Hulk's arms for a time, which is a lot more I can say for most other heroes. Ms Marvel wouldn't be strong enough to do that to WWH.

Looked like she tried stopping the Hulk arm then she got tossed aside.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Looked like she tried stopping the Hulk arm then she got tossed aside.

Yes, eventually, but by the looks of it, Hulk was struggling just as much as she was. Keep in mind, this was World War Hulk. A very impressive fear, not mqny are capable of duplicating.

I think Colossus holding WWHulk off in a test of strength is more impressive than that. Hulk gave Colossus some props.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I think Colossus holding WWHulk off in a test of strength is more impressive than that. Hulk gave Colossus some props.

Not a very good example, really. Hulk easily bent back Colossus' arms. Hulk said Colossus had guts and said he almost considered Colossus to be a good match for him at one time.

Originally posted by Mike82
Not a very good example, really. Hulk easily bent back Colossus' arms. Hulk said Colossus had guts and said he almost considered Colossus to be a good match for him at one time.
But Hulk gave him respect. Namora got tossed aside with no respect.

Originally posted by Mike82
Everybody would get their butt kicked by Hulk, but she's certainly strong enough to pin down one of Hulk's arms for a time, which is a lot more I can say for most other heroes. Ms Marvel wouldn't be strong enough to do that to WWH.

Carol restrained Count Nefaria for a few moments, who's stronger then Thor.