KMC Star Wars Community Tier effort

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KMC Star Wars Community Tier effort

In an effort to stop needless reporting of posters to moderators for disagreements over characters- does anyone here want to make a tier system like the Comic book subforum here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577922.html

The ties could be divided into subforums according to lightsaber skill, force ability, and a ranking into both factors as seen here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/star-wars-character-tiering-10-1-1628084/?page=1

As this is a community effort, all feedback is important and all posters should feel free to post their list and argue for their characters placement accordingly. If we can get this off the ground who would be interested in working towards a system? Is anyone up for it?

Sure!

Not so sure why people want a tier list so badly. Our opinions differ so differently that a tier list would serve almost no purpose.

Other than the TOR/Bane fans most of the posters here have a general idea of where characters fit in placement. Besides people are getting reported because the TOR/Bane clique think X match is a spite thread, and they can't argue their points without crying to a mod. A tier placement would at least give an idea of where a character fits in relation to a fight, so that they have no reason to go to Badabing every other thread.

The real challenge would be for it to not go off topic or turn into some silliness.

I like the idea of this, I just don't know how well it will work in practice.

It would work well, take a look how it went on Comicvine.

As long as we remember to actually put the NJO members in the tier list this time. NJO is sort of underrepresented in the comicvine list.

Uh, no?

Durron, Mara, Luke, Lumiya, Katarn, Caedus, Jaina are all in the upper tier brackets for the most part, with even Saba, Corran, and others ranking high in lightsaber skill tier. For instance Jaina, Mara, Saba, etc are all tier 8 based on rankings from the vine:

Tier 10

Luke Skywalker
Tier 9

Darth Sidious / Yoda
Darth Caedus
Count Dooku / Mace Windu
Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader
Tier 8

Agen Kolar / Asajj Ventress / Darth Maul / Exar Kun / General Grievous / Jaina Solo / Lumiya / Obi-Wan Kenobi
Kit Fisto / Mara Jade Skywalker / Plo Koon / Ulic Qel-Droma

So if this is a go so far MCP, The Merchant, ILS, and maybe Trocity. Anyone else?

I would be interested.

Darth nihilus and revan 3.0 are at the top of the list, above everyone.

There's a lack of characters on the CV list now because we aren't overwhelming the thread with too many debates at one time. After a few months it'll probably be stacked.

Originally posted by Trocity
I like the idea of this, I just don't know how well it will work in practice.

Vitiate has to be above Sidious for this list to be considered anything.

That being said, we probably need two tier lists. One for the PT half of the forum, the other for the TOR half of the forum.

@Carthage
It will be the way you want, but from my experience in creating Tiers, we should use top/mid/low degrees. In a list of all time, there will be far too much characters in one tier. Like say, Plo, Kenobi, Opress. And we should somehow state, that Kenobi is more advanced Tier X fighter, then Opress for example.

Tier 10

Luke Skywalker
Tier 9

Darth Sidious / Yoda
Darth Caedus
Count Dooku / Mace Windu
Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader
Tier 8

Agen Kolar / Asajj Ventress / Darth Maul / Exar Kun / General Grievous / Jaina Solo / Lumiya / Obi-Wan Kenobi
Kit Fisto / Mara Jade Skywalker / Plo Koon / Ulic Qel-Droma

I'm not a fan of Eras after ROTJ, so I wont be that helpful with Luke and Cadeus. But - was Luke that good as a duelist, to place him the whole tier above Sidious and Yoda?
I would also place Vader as level 8 duelist, since Lucas statement was clear - Anakin was clearly better duelist.

And form of that Tier sux imo. Here, they are placed by skill. Yoda and Sidious are top in tier 9, and the rest are below. It would be much easier, to use my system:

Tier 9:

Luke (top)
Yoda (top)
Darth Sidious (top/mid)
Darth Caedus (mid)
Count Dooku (mid/low)
Mace Windu (mid/low)
Anakin Skywalker (low)

It's much more simple way to state how good those guys are. And this is my proposition for a tier 9. I'm not sure if Plagueis shouldn't be a low Tier 9. If not, then top 8 Tier?

GM Luke is indeed a whole tier above Sidious and Yoda. Even Yoda can't take out a dozen Sith on his own. GM Luke? Can. He is worthy of his Tier 10. And we haven't even gotten into what happens when he goes 'One With the Force.' Which is basically Super Saiyan for Force Users. He's probably temporarily tied with the Daughter of Mortis then.

Also, Sidious is decidedly higher then Yoda. They are not tied. Sidious is really a '9.5' on the tier rankings. Yoda is only a 9. This is particularly evident in DE.

I know the suspense is killing you killing you Carthage, so I'll just come out and say it: it was I who reported you.

Originally posted by appletonia
I know the suspense is killing you killing you Carthage, so I'll just come out and say it: it was I who reported you.
Why lol?

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Also, Sidious is decidedly higher then Yoda. They are not tied. Sidious is really a '9.5' on the tier rankings. Yoda is only a 9. This is particularly evident in DE.

Nope. Sidious didn't show himself in DE as better duelist ten his ROTS self. He just became so powerful, that he could use a Force strom.
Anyway, accroding to ROTS script and movie, Yoda was better in a pure lightsaber fight. By margin, but better.