Originally posted by NemeBro
Sion is first of all virtually immortal, as I'm sure you know. Anakin isn't, so who cares?
Wrong, while on Korriban and Malachor. he is virtually immortal. yet he doesn't fall to Nihilus despite the fact that Nihilus feeds on the living force and that he is off such a place of power. interesting hm?
As for Kreia, I do not know why he spared her. But spare her he did. After easily overpowering her and stripping the Force from her he was content to watch as Sion beat up an old woman.
So, you don't know? alright fair enough.
"Didn't" is not synonymous with "couldn't".
Perhaps. but it doesn't change the fact that many have survived his devastating assaults
Your red herrings are getting boring. Make an actual argument or leave.
Nowhere in your post is it mentioned or even implied that Nihilus didn't know of her until after. The best you could do is argue that her thought that being able to "hide (her) presence from the galaxy" might have allowed Nihilus to miss her.But she mentions the galaxy in the quote later at the end, when he forced her to see it and made her "wish to die".
The hiding she referred to was hiding from the galaxy that Nihilus showed her.
Try again.
Sigh. Again.
She survived the assault afterwords, he came to her, because she was a "flickering light in the darkness of the planet of Katarr" he came, brought her to the Ravager healed her and showed her the darkness. Never is stated that she wanted to hide from him so that he would show her the galaxy as it was. she felt the agony and anguish because of her dead people and planet, which drew him to her.
And secondly. Prove to me that he spared her from the force drain from the start. Can anyone prove that? and even if you could, How did Nihilus know of her if he feasted on the planet from orbit hm?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Visas survives for being strong. Moreso than a hundred Jedi Masters and Darth motherfvcking Traya.Seems legit bro. 😆
firstly, *more so*
secondly, I didn't state that you derp, i had mean't to say "a powerful one as well". Please point to where i specifically stated that " Visas>>>>>>>>Kreia and a Hundred mook masters" Anything? No? good. don't twist my words neph. you of all people should know better than that.
Regardless. I think we're done here, no one has proven that Nihilus spared Visas from the drain and i doubt you guys will concede or even prove it. so this debate is over. Later mates
Originally posted by Fated Xtasyif Nihilus didn't spare her then why did he take her yo his ship and heal her wounds?
Wrong, while on Korriban and Malachor. he is virtually immortal. yet he doesn't fall to Nihilus despite the fact that Nihilus feeds on the living force and that he is off such a place of power. interesting hm?So, you don't know? alright fair enough.
Perhaps. but it doesn't change the fact that many have survived his devastating assaults
Sigh. Again.
She survived the assault afterwords, he came to her, because she was a "flickering light in the darkness of the planet of Katarr" he came, brought her to the Ravager healed her and showed her the darkness. Never is stated that she wanted to hide from him so that he would show her the galaxy as it was. she felt the agony and anguish because of her dead people and planet, which drew him to her.
And secondly. Prove to me that he spared her from the force drain from the start. Can anyone prove that? and even if you could, How did Nihilus know of her if he feasted on the planet from orbit hm?
firstly, *more so*
secondly, I didn't state that you derp, i had mean't to say "a powerful one as well". Please point to where i specifically stated that " Visas>>>>>>>>Kreia and a Hundred mook masters" Anything? No? good. don't twist my words neph. you of all people should know better than that.
Regardless. I think we're done here, no one has proven that Nihilus spared Visas from the drain and i doubt you guys will concede or even prove it. so this debate is over. Later mates
Originally posted by WildBantha88
if Nihilus didn't spare her then why did he take her yo his ship and heal her wounds?
Because she survived? A servant that's immune to Sions forces and anyone else who might attempt to learn his power and upstart him is incredibly useful. If anyone attempts to take Drain to his levels, she can kill them.
It's obvious he had no qualms killing her if she stepped out of line, he was basically about to on the Ravager once.
Originally posted by Selenial
Because she survived? A servant that's immune to Sions forces and anyone else who might attempt to learn his power and upstart him is incredibly useful. If anyone attempts to take Drain to his levels, she can kill them.It's obvious he had no qualms killing her if she stepped out of line, he was basically about to on the Ravager once.
Y..you agree with me...?
Originally posted by Fated Xtasyshe shouldn't. What you are proposing is preposterous. Out of a billion people she can resist? Unlikely, she was battered and bruised, clearly damaged. And as you can see she was never shown in the black cloud of death nor around other people for that matter. She was in an isolated place where Nihilus didn't need to sweep his cloud over to kill everyone else. Or the fact that he knew exactly where she was despite her being barely alive and among lots of dead people? That is a lot of coincidences
Y..you agree with me...?
Originally posted by WildBantha88
she shouldn't. What you are proposing is preposterous. Out of a billion people she can resist? Unlikely, she was battered and bruised, clearly damaged. And as you can see she was never shown in the black cloud of death nor around other people for that matter. She was in an isolated place where Nihilus didn't need to sweep his cloud over to kill everyone else. Or the fact that he knew exactly where she was despite her being barely alive and among lots of dead people? That is a lot of coincidences
Uh huh. dude, need i remind you of the keywords: "Killed" "Entire" "Colony" and "Jedi"? or should i just use the phrase "killed a planet"? again, this guy killed Jedi, Miraluka, and a planet indiscriminately. how? - oh sweet baby Obi-Wan, how? would he have even known about Visas prior to sipping the life out of Katarr like a slurpee?
Yeah, he knew how to find her because. she was "a Flicker in the darkness of the planet" and you know, the only other living thing on the bloody planet.
Because stating that
#1 - he let her live because she was in an isolated area - even though he killed every living thing on planet btw, is preposterous.
#2 - he decided to spare her before he attacked the planet - even though he didn't even know of her, is even more preposterous
several quotes support me. He drained the planet, she felt it and survived, then he came to her(because he is drawn to force sensitives as stated several times by Kreia and Visas. And she was the only surviving thing on the planet), brought her to his ship, - where the whole "spared her life scenario" actually happens. then he showed her the galaxy and made her his apprentice.
what's 'preposterous', Bantha. is that no one has proof that he spared her from the drain. no one has provided a quote - in universe or other-wise, that directly contradicts not my words, but the words of Visas Marr.
Contrary to your belief DarthAnt. I'm not being at all aggressive. I am simply annoyed that you guys are pretty much attacking me over what is a fact. yet you yourselves have yet to provide an actual quote that suggests otherwise.
Not to mention I've had to repeat myself more than once. it gets annoying, you and neph should know the feeling considering your own debates.
don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to lowball Nihilus, i respect his power, but i also have my doubts about his overall strength
Originally posted by Fated Xtasythe lack of a quote would be do to lack of literature depicting the event. But there is visuals and in not on of them is she shown being subjected to the death field herself. She is, however, battered and broken by the insane TK that swept the planet, but it is never stated or shown that she was in the death field. It I'd most likely that she was never submitted to it, whether it be by Nihilus deliberately leaving her out of it or some other passing of events that she was out of its way. But if you do wish for a quote then allow me to reiterate one that has been stated countless times. "There are techniques in the Force for which there is no defense."
Uh huh. dude, need i remind you of the keywords: "Killed" "Entire" "Colony" and "Jedi"? or should i just use the phrase "killed a planet"? again, this guy killed Jedi, Miraluka, and a planet indiscriminately. how? - oh sweet baby Obi-Wan, how? would he have even known about Visas prior to sipping the life out of Katarr like a slurpee?Yeah, he knew how to find her because. she was "a Flicker in the darkness of the planet" and you know, the only other living thing on the bloody planet.
Because stating that
#1 - he let her live because she was in an isolated area - even though he killed every living thing on planet btw, is preposterous.
#2 - he decided to spare her before he attacked the planet - even though he didn't even know of her, is even more preposterous
several quotes support me. He drained the planet, she felt it and survived, then he came to her(because he is drawn to force sensitives as stated several times by Kreia and Visas. And she was the only surviving thing on the planet), brought her to his ship, - where the whole "spared her life scenario" actually happens. then he showed her the galaxy and made her his apprentice.
what's 'preposterous', Bantha. is that no one has proof that he spared her from the drain. no one has provided a quote - in universe or other-wise, that directly contradicts not my words, but the words of Visas Marr.
The only possibilities are that she is a force wound or that she was not subjected to it
Originally posted by WildBantha88
the lack of a quote would be do to lack of literature depicting the event. But there is visuals and in not on of them is she shown being subjected to the death field herself. She is, however, battered and broken by the insane TK that swept the planet, but it is never stated or shown that she was in the death field. It I'd most likely that she was never submitted to it, whether it be by Nihilus deliberately leaving her out of it or some other passing of events that she was out of its way. But if you do wish for a quote then allow me to reiterate one that has been stated countless times. "There are techniques in the Force for which there is no defense."The only possibilities are that she is a force wound or that she was not subjected to it
I reiterate. Bruised and battered, yes. That does not change the fact that he destroyed all life on the entire planet. Again, then entire planet, bud. Jedi and Miraluka alike. I reiterate. The entire planet, everywhere, everything died. She was the only living thing. If everything and everyone died - if the planet itself is described as "dead" how would Visas be out of range of the death field?
Again. Look at everything. from his ship above, from the thousands - potentially millions of force sensitives on katarr - including Jedi. how would he single one out? why would he spare her from the drain? I reiterate. this drain killed all life on the planet dude, the entire planet, why would he leave a single area alone? again this directly contradicts the statements of Visas, the planet completely was dead - save for her.
A wound? It's possible, she does say she was severed from "everything I[she] was connected to" but who's to say?
Originally posted by Fated Xtasythe words "I reiterate" are beaten and bruised..lol jking.
I reiterate. Bruised and battered, yes. That does not change the fact that he destroyed all life on the entire planet. Again, then entire planet, bud. Jedi and Miraluka alike. I reiterate. The entire planet, everywhere, everything died. She was the only living thing. If everything and everyone died - if the planet itself is described as "dead" how would Visas be out of range of the death field?Again. Look at everything. from his ship above, from the thousands - potentially millions of force sensitives on katarr - including Jedi. how would he single one out? why would he spare her from the drain? I reiterate. this drain killed all life on the planet dude, the entire planet, why would he leave a single area alone? again this directly contradicts the statements of Visas, the planet completely was dead - save for her.
A wound? It's possible, she does say she was severed from "everything I[she] was connected to" but who's to say?
But lolr I said, either she got hit by the cloud and is a force wound or else she did not get hit by the cloud. Whatever you believe, it doesn't change that Anakin is screwed
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Wrong, while on Korriban and Malachor. he is virtually immortal. yet he doesn't fall to Nihilus despite the fact that Nihilus feeds on the living force and that he is off such a place of power. interesting hm?
Sure, he was even more difficult to kill on a nexus, but the doctor who examined him in neutral ground explicitly stated that there is no medical way he could be alive.
Yet he was. 👆
So, you don't know? alright fair enough.Perhaps. but it doesn't change the fact that many have survived his devastating assaults
Many? Try four. Five if you include cut content like Sion.
Millions more haven't.
Sigh. Again.She survived the assault afterwords, he came to her, because she was a "flickering light in the darkness of the planet of Katarr" he came, brought her to the Ravager healed her and showed her the darkness. Never is stated that she wanted to hide from him so that he would show her the galaxy as it was. she felt the agony and anguish because of her dead people and planet, which drew him to her.
It's almost sad that I have to crush your misplaced sense of pride in yourself. But crush it I shall.
The "flickering light in the darkness" only states that she was just that; the only thing left alive there. It doesn't state or imply that Nihilus sensed said flicker and came to her because of it, like you imply. 👆
I'm honestly not sure what you're saying with the second statement. It actually sort of looks like you're agreeing with me, and that she didn't say she wanted to hide from him, but that she wanted to hide from the galaxy that he showed her?
And secondly. Prove to me that he spared her from the force drain from the start. Can anyone prove that? and even if you could, How did Nihilus know of her if he feasted on the planet from orbit hm?
"I asked him why he had spared me."
You're welcome. 👆
Don't know, don't care. That Nihilus could have killed her has been proven, despite your constant bringing up of people he didn't kill.
firstly, *more so*secondly, I didn't state that you derp, i had mean't to say "a powerful one as well". Please point to where i specifically stated that " Visas>>>>>>>>Kreia and a Hundred mook masters" Anything? No? good. don't twist my words neph. you of all people should know better than that.
Regardless. I think we're done here, no one has proven that Nihilus spared Visas from the drain and i doubt you guys will concede or even prove it. so this debate is over. Later mates
I accept your concession. 👆