Is Revan "far more powerful" then Darth Traya?

Just going to quote what I wrote on CV. Thoughts? Concerns? Issues?

I encourage you to educate yourself on Star Wars lore by reading Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan, to better expand your knowledge of Star Wars and apply it into debates. It not merely "one line", but rather a collection of events leading up to and occurring after that narrator statement. I assume you forget that the quote was stated before they reunited in Darth Nyriss' citadel, meaning Meetra Surik has yet to even see Revan Reborn's new power. Rather instead, the last time Meetra Surik was able to feel the presence of Revan was during the final days of Mandalorian Wars at presumably Malachor V. Then also remember the fact that Revan had grown "far more powerful" since then. If Mandalorian Wars Revan is more powerful then Darth Traya in the heart of Malachor IV, an immense nexus of darkside energies, then Revan by the time of Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan is, according to canon statements, far more powerful then her. This was demonstrated when Meetra Surik, the women who ultimately killed an amplified Darth Traya, was grotesquely trashed by someone who was "easily bested" by Revan.

Or Karpyshan is a blithering twit who didn't do any research and idiotically wanted to prop up his own creations above Avellone's and his Meetra Surik was a massive Revan fangirl with a brain tumor.

Isn't it wonderful?

Lolno.

That post is so disgraceful I might very well disown you.

Make an argument that Revan > Traya if you want, but that's a pathetic argument.

Originally posted by Selenial
Lolno.

That post is so disgraceful I might very well disown you.

Make an argument that Revan > Traya if you want, but that's a pathetic argument.

Thing is, when you base arguments on foolish bases that were already refuted then you look like a fool.

Using Nyriss is lawlz.

As for Mandalorian wars vs Traya, we already know Traya was difficult to sense, her power impossible to gauge etc, make an argument for this all you want, but not like this. It's a failure of an argument.

Such denial, such wow. I don't recall using any arguments that were previous refuted. You having a hissy fit and demolishing Nephthys doesn't count, mother.

Source that says her power was impossible to gauge as of Malachor IV?

"She is difficult to see... She is like a shadow of the exile."

I remember a few others, going to go find them now.

I want quotes from Surik, though.

Well then obviously there isn't any, since we don't know what she says?

Also, I'm not contesting that the quote might prove Mando Revan is stronger than Traya in her eyes. However, Meetra is a Jedi who sees no power in the Sith. What's more is a Nexus doesn't add to someone's power, it merely gives them a reservoir to draw from, while Traya may be more powerful there, she wouldn't seem any different when looked at through the force.

She senses power and the Force, though: "But... that makes no sense. I can feel the Force again."

confused what you're saying there, because that's my point.

If Meetra says Coleman Trebor > Anyone she's ever seen, that means he's better than Traya in her eyes. However, it doesn't mean better than Nexus Traya. Nexus Traya is no different, power level wise, if you were to try and sense her power it would be just that, her normal power. She is simply surrounded by the force, and she can draw on it. She doesn't somehow gain more midiclorians or new power, she can just use the force around her.

And she explains that herself in the Dantooine caves.

The specific phrasing "command of the Force", could be referring to Force Mastery, not power.

Is Revan "far more powerful" then Darth Traya?

No

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Originally posted by Nephthys
The specific phrasing "command of the Force", could be referring to Force Mastery, not power.

Or the fact that he uses both sides?

He didn't use both sides at that point.

Originally posted by Selenial
If Meetra says Coleman Trebor > Anyone she's ever seen, that means he's better than Traya in her eyes. However, it doesn't mean better than Nexus Traya. Nexus Traya is no different, power level wise, if you were to try and sense her power it would be just that, her normal power. She is simply surrounded by the force, and she can draw on it. She doesn't somehow gain more midiclorians or new power, she can just use the force around her.

Wait, was the quote "Revan had a greater command of the force than anyone she had ever met"?

Because that could easily be interpreted as meaning back then, she hadn't met anyone more powerful. It's past tense and shit.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That's not how nexus' and wounds work, IMO.

Well how do you think they work?

Because Traya says it's force flowing through something, and if she was to simplify it it's like water running through a strainer. That any force user can draw from the force that seeps through.

@first post Not sure how that can interpreted as that... doesn't make much sense.