Is Revan "far more powerful" then Darth Traya?

Started by AncientPower6 pages
AncientPower The Chosen One

A Meetra Surik respect thread is required, emphasising her martial prowess.

NewGuy01 perpetual

There is one.

Selenial I Choose Violence

It's shit, doesn't take dark side or TSLRCM into account.

I'm actually making one, care to collaborate on it AP?

Selenial I Choose Violence

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
To be honest, Surik's performance against Imperial Guard is what actually convinced me to acknowledge her as being exceptionally skilled in martial aspects of combat including lightsaber dueling arts, better then majority of the Jedi including some hyped master swordsmen.

A lone Imperial Guard individual can handle a Jedi but Surik managed to handle two singlehandedly which is VERY GOOD display of power and skill in combat for a single Jedi.

Surik is really under-appreciated as a master swordsman. She would defeat many capable warriors with just her martial skills.

Indeed.

However it's still not what she'd pull off at prime, she'd be even better given her wound.

It's not like she gained skill travelling to Kaas, but she lost skill when she lost her wound.

TheDarthBoy Senior Member
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Hey Sith? Or Jack?

Ok................you and we all need an agreement of power/"skill" for him, this bickering is pointless because he is still widely regarded as unknown in terms of power in order for this to be solid we need a conclusive statement for Revan.

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by Selenial
Indeed.

However it's still not what she'd pull off at prime, she'd be even better given her wound.

It's not like she gained skill travelling to Kaas, but she lost skill when she lost her wound.


The wound condition influenced her power and safeguard against some Sith powers, this is what I came to understand from available data. The referred condition would be largely irrelevant against Imperial Guard since they were virtually immune to Force powers because they were able to draw from the power of Emperor himself to increase their safeguard against attacks from Jedi and Sith in a setting where they were stationed near him.

KoTOR II revealed that Surik was quick to learn and hone her skills in lightsaber dueling arts, SWTOR (Revan) actually affirmed her mastery in lightsaber dueling arts and/or martial skills in general. Surik's martial skills were unlikely to degrade after she healed.

Nonetheless, Surik have solid combat history.

TheDarthBoy Senior Member

Define solid...........

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by TheDarthBoy
Define solid...........

Translation: very good.

Selenial I Choose Violence

Ahh but Legend, the wound allowed her to feed off an enemies Knowledge, she could replicate styles to absolute Mastery due to her wounds.

The insight that wound allowed her into enemy fighting styles and attacks terrified even the most stalwart of Jedi.

Side Note: Would people want a Surik Respect thread that viewed TSLRCM as Sources or not? Definitely doing the DS route as to how it elaborates on wounds, but curious about TSLRCM.

Selenial I Choose Violence
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Translation: very good.

How would you rate her compared to:

Windu
Yoda
Fisto
Shaak Ti
Agen Kolar
Ven Zallow
Gnost Dural
Satele Shan
Revan

???

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Originally posted by Selenial
How would you rate her compared to:

Windu
Yoda
Fisto
Shaak Ti
Agen Kolar
Ven Zallow
Gnost Dural
Satele Shan
Revan

???


I thought you were going to PM me.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Originally posted by Selenial
Side Note: Would people want a Surik Respect thread that viewed TSLRCM as Sources or not? Definitely doing the DS route as to how it elaborates on wounds, but curious about TSLRCM.

DS is non-canon though.

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by Selenial
How would you rate her compared to:

Windu
Yoda
Fisto
Shaak Ti
Agen Kolar
Ven Zallow
Gnost Dural
Satele Shan
Revan

???


This is strictly about martial aspects of combat (or) holistic combat prowess with all variables considered in the assessment including feats, victories and other information?

Selenial I Choose Violence
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
DS is non-canon though.

Indeed, but it explains the mechanics behind a force wound, and surely those explanations are Canon?

Selenial I Choose Violence
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This is strictly about martial aspects of combat (or) holistic combat prowess with all variables considered in the assessment including feats, victories and other information?

Either, both, surprise me?

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by Selenial
Either, both, surprise me?

Holistic combat prowess:-

01. Revan
02. Windu
03. Yoda
04. Shan
05. Surik
06. Zallow
07. Dural
08. Ti
09. Fisto
10. Kolar

Strictly martial aspects of combat:-

01: Windu
02: Yoda
03: Surik
04: Revan
05: Shan
06: Zallow
07: Dural
08: Ti
09: Fisto
10: Kolar

Selenial I Choose Violence

Ewww that Satele is > Surik in whole, and Revan > Yoda, but other than that decent lists Legend.

I'm impressed.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

You just like it because he put Surik high, mother.

Just like I like it because he put Revan high... 😮

Selenial I Choose Violence

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You just like it because he put Surik high, mother.

Just like I like it because he put Revan high... 😮

Well duh.

I might post a few more lists for him to do 😛

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by Selenial
Ewww that Satele is > Surik in whole, and Revan > Yoda, but other than that decent lists Legend.

I'm impressed.


Thank you. 🙂

All variables have been considered in the rankings; victories; feats; official hype and other useful data.

Yoda have significant hype, immense power, and some very impressive feats, but he somehow lacks as a combatant. Perhaps his mindset is a problem.

Shan have some very impressive feats and significant hype that I could not overlook.

Revan is very impressive on all fronts.